please help!

nikbear · 10-25-08, 06:41 AM

I just don't understand it,one career is working fine,but if I try and start another it always CTD

you get to sea alright,just into the patrol 20minutes and bang

CTD!The ms reply is kenel.dll always......how can one work fine but anthing else go nuts......it seems to happen if I go to TC aswell,yet the settings are not set wild or anything like that

any help GREATLY appreciated

VikingGrandad · 10-25-08, 07:46 AM

Have you tried loading an earlier save point in the career?

TarJak · 10-25-08, 07:57 AM

Would be good if you can provide some details about when it happens, what boat type, what year is the career? What grid are you in when the CTD happens? What mods do you have loaded? Can you get the offset of the CTD from the crash details? Click show details and then post the offset and error message that gets displayed. This makes it easier to diagnose.

From what you've said I assume you are running two parallel careers. It seems that some event occurs in the one that CTD's that is not happening in the other career, hence the need for date and boat type info. Also what flotilla and harbour are you running out of?

irish1958 · 10-25-08, 08:03 AM

I agree with TarJak; when this has happened to me, it has been because I screwed-up the SH3 folder in My Documents while trying to run more than one career and more than one install.
Use the MultiInstall mod and this will not be a problem if you have more than one install.

nikbear · 10-25-08, 08:31 AM

Thats it,the one career that was working has chucked me out,always kernal.dll,thats it

AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix
Crash Dive 30 Metres!
ENV - Water_Stream_and_exhaust_smoke
Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
Torpedo Eagles
TwistyPeriscopeThingyMod
GWX-TA1.3_Seafloormod - 256mb
GWX - Open Hatch Mod
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
Floppy_Cap_Fix
Community units
Arrow_Tanker_v1.2
BBWarspite
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
HMS DOVER
LifeBoats&Debris_v3B
Pacos_German_Folklore_SubEmblems_Mod_V1.2
Rowers_for_LifeBoats&Debris_v3B
RadioLog_Expanded Updated
RHNAverof
New_T-2_Tanker_v1.0
Lutzow Music Mod 5.0
SHIV Scene for GWX 8k v3c
Sobers 3D waves
Lutzow Officers SET2
GWX2 Alternate Sound Pack
Head Triangle Fix
Averoff Guns
EoBritainArmed
QueenElizabethArmed
RMSAquitaniaArmed
ssNormandieArmed
SSRexArmed
WH_VIIB_Bluecamo_1024

thats the list with whats working,or was

nikbear · 10-25-08, 02:12 PM

Shameless bump,My weekend is ebbing away here

nikbear · 10-25-08, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikingGrandad

Have you tried loading an earlier save point in the career?

Yes,still no joy

nikbear · 10-25-08, 05:53 PM

the same as me,nothing changed,just gets worse,everthing that worked before just turned to sh1t

no help,wasted weekend

Iam not going to reload this game again,if it stuffs up this time,then its off for good

TarJak · 10-25-08, 08:10 PM

OK if it was working and now isn't have you tried starting a fresh career in a different year?

Graf Paper · 10-25-08, 08:31 PM

This has been known to happen to many others before, just ask Brag about his troubles with Balz's career getting jakered.

I'm not sure if the cause or cure was ever found, but it's not a bad idea to make at least weekly backups of your career into a seperate folder located somewhere else on your hard drive. For those who are really worried, make a backup after every patrol or session.

I thought SH3 Commander had a career backup feature? If it doesn't ought to!

Wreford-Brown · 10-25-08, 08:43 PM

Don't forget the less obvious problems - overheating, lack of RAM, lack of virtual RAM etc.

I was suffering from a lot of CTDs which were solved by doing a good clean of my system - scandisk, defrag, registry cleaner (someone recommended CCleaner and it's a great little tool - freed up over 1GB of space).

Give it a go. The worst case scenario is your system has a little less clutter but it may just solve your problems.

nikbear · 10-26-08, 10:39 AM

I do all those things on a weekly basis so I don't think its that,fitted new fan so its running 4 of them now so I don't think its overheating,tried everything I can think of

It starts up fine,runs fine then just as I'm 10-15 minutes in to a patrol CTD!

I've not changed anything,or added anything so really what was working fine last week should in theory work fine now

as a thought,how do you check and alter virtual RAM and what should it be set at:hmm:Thanks for all the suggestions and help everybody,it is greatly appreciated.

Wreford-Brown · 10-26-08, 10:49 AM

I use a utility called WinSpeedUp. It was free with a magazine a number of years ago and I'm still using 2.52.
2.6 is free at the following page: http://www.tucows.com/preview/335636 or you can pay $20 for the latest version (2.8).

There are bound to be other utilities out there to do the same thing. We'll just wait for someone more knowledgeable to come along...

nikbear · 10-26-08, 05:29 PM

I think I will have to give that a try cause I'm stumped as to what it could be:hmm:I have noticed that when you enable the Community units mod after the AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix in JSGME there is a warning and the bugfix grey's out if you carry on...wonder if that will be fixed in GWX gold.I tried again tonight to finish a patrol that I had started to test various cure's,it loaded up fine and ran great for all of 2 minutes then CTD

I'm at a loss as what to do next really

Graf Paper · 10-26-08, 07:24 PM

This hasn't been the only post about the "Community Units" mod causing trouble and it's always in connection with the "AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix" patch.

Some people seem to do just fine with the mod and bugfix but there a plenty of others that suffer CTDs when they use it.

Sure would be good if someone could pinpoint this and be able to say for sure exactly what is causing this. Especially before I upgrade to GWx 2.1!

10-25-08, 06:41 AM	#1
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	please help! I just don't understand it,one career is working fine,but if I try and start another it always CTDyou get to sea alright,just into the patrol 20minutes and bangCTD!The ms reply is kenel.dll always......how can one work fine but anthing else go nuts......it seems to happen if I go to TC aswell,yet the settings are not set wild or anything like thatany help GREATLY appreciated __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-25-08, 07:46 AM	#2
VikingGrandad Planesman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: AM93 Posts: 183 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Have you tried loading an earlier save point in the career? __________________

10-25-08, 08:03 AM	#4
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	CTD I agree with TarJak; when this has happened to me, it has been because I screwed-up the SH3 folder in My Documents while trying to run more than one career and more than one install. Use the MultiInstall mod and this will not be a problem if you have more than one install. __________________ Irish1958

10-25-08, 08:31 AM	#5
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Thats it,the one career that was working has chucked me out,always kernal.dll,thats itAOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix Crash Dive 30 Metres! ENV - Water_Stream_and_exhaust_smoke Torpedo damage Final ver2.0 Torpedo Eagles TwistyPeriscopeThingyMod GWX-TA1.3_Seafloormod - 256mb GWX - Open Hatch Mod GWX - No Medals on Crew GWX - Integrated Orders GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons Floppy_Cap_Fix Community units Arrow_Tanker_v1.2 BBWarspite GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects HMS DOVER LifeBoats&Debris_v3B Pacos_German_Folklore_SubEmblems_Mod_V1.2 Rowers_for_LifeBoats&Debris_v3B RadioLog_Expanded Updated RHNAverof New_T-2_Tanker_v1.0 Lutzow Music Mod 5.0 SHIV Scene for GWX 8k v3c Sobers 3D waves Lutzow Officers SET2 GWX2 Alternate Sound Pack Head Triangle Fix Averoff Guns EoBritainArmed QueenElizabethArmed RMSAquitaniaArmed ssNormandieArmed SSRexArmed WH_VIIB_Bluecamo_1024 thats the list with whats working,or was __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-25-08, 02:12 PM	#6
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Shameless bump,My weekend is ebbing away here __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-25-08, 07:57 AM	#3
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Would be good if you can provide some details about when it happens, what boat type, what year is the career? What grid are you in when the CTD happens? What mods do you have loaded? Can you get the offset of the CTD from the crash details? Click show details and then post the offset and error message that gets displayed. This makes it easier to diagnose. From what you've said I assume you are running two parallel careers. It seems that some event occurs in the one that CTD's that is not happening in the other career, hence the need for date and boat type info. Also what flotilla and harbour are you running out of?

10-25-08, 05:53 PM	#8
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	the same as me,nothing changed,just gets worse,everthing that worked before just turned to sh1tno help,wasted weekendIam not going to reload this game again,if it stuffs up this time,then its off for good __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-25-08, 08:10 PM	#9
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	OK if it was working and now isn't have you tried starting a fresh career in a different year?

10-25-08, 08:31 PM	#10
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	This has been known to happen to many others before, just ask Brag about his troubles with Balz's career getting jakered. I'm not sure if the cause or cure was ever found, but it's not a bad idea to make at least weekly backups of your career into a seperate folder located somewhere else on your hard drive. For those who are really worried, make a backup after every patrol or session. I thought SH3 Commander had a career backup feature? If it doesn't ought to! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-25-08, 08:43 PM	#11
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	Don't forget the less obvious problems - overheating, lack of RAM, lack of virtual RAM etc. I was suffering from a lot of CTDs which were solved by doing a good clean of my system - scandisk, defrag, registry cleaner (someone recommended CCleaner and it's a great little tool - freed up over 1GB of space). Give it a go. The worst case scenario is your system has a little less clutter but it may just solve your problems. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

10-26-08, 10:39 AM	#12
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I do all those things on a weekly basis so I don't think its that,fitted new fan so its running 4 of them now so I don't think its overheating,tried everything I can think ofIt starts up fine,runs fine then just as I'm 10-15 minutes in to a patrol CTD!I've not changed anything,or added anything so really what was working fine last week should in theory work fine nowas a thought,how do you check and alter virtual RAM and what should it be set at:hmm:Thanks for all the suggestions and help everybody,it is greatly appreciated. __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-26-08, 10:49 AM	#13
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	I use a utility called WinSpeedUp. It was free with a magazine a number of years ago and I'm still using 2.52. 2.6 is free at the following page: http://www.tucows.com/preview/335636 or you can pay $20 for the latest version (2.8). There are bound to be other utilities out there to do the same thing. We'll just wait for someone more knowledgeable to come along... __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

10-26-08, 05:29 PM	#14
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I think I will have to give that a try cause I'm stumped as to what it could be:hmm:I have noticed that when you enable the Community units mod after the AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix in JSGME there is a warning and the bugfix grey's out if you carry on...wonder if that will be fixed in GWX gold.I tried again tonight to finish a patrol that I had started to test various cure's,it loaded up fine and ran great for all of 2 minutes then CTD I'm at a loss as what to do next really __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-26-08, 07:24 PM	#15
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	This hasn't been the only post about the "Community Units" mod causing trouble and it's always in connection with the "AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix" patch. Some people seem to do just fine with the mod and bugfix but there a plenty of others that suffer CTDs when they use it. Sure would be good if someone could pinpoint this and be able to say for sure exactly what is causing this. Especially before I upgrade to GWx 2.1! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.