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Silent Hunter
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Why is this ship classified as a destroyer escort? Seems kind of odd to me.
(Easy enough to modify, though).
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Yeah. Destroyer Escort was an American designation that was finally changed to Frigate in 1975 to bring them more in line with Nato nomenclature..I don't think the British ever used it.
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There are two River Classes, and an Issue of
other nomenclature as well. The term Destroyer Escort was adopted for there emergency escort ship designs. the british used the terms corvette and later frigate for there emergency expansion escorts but used the term Destroyer escort for a fleet destroyer stepped down in duties due to age and obselesence.but not retired which were refitted usually with reduced surface armament though not always and usually with an increased asw loadout. they were short legged but very fast compared to the early hodge podge escorts and the flower class corvettes. later on as a result of the success of the flower class a military conversion of a commercial design the admiralty asked William Reed designer of the Flower Class to go the other way and make a commercial construction out of a military design in an effort to remedy the more obvious shortcomings of the Flower Class. the result was the River Class Frigate. a different type of ship altogether than the DE's, The Rivers Were produced to the tune of 176 commisioned hulls worldwide, they also spawned the later Loch and Bay class Frigates which in there turn were the penultimate versions of the commercial construction approach. River Frigates were highly succesful if imperfect escorts. they were however a worthy remedy and filled out the main role of the escorts through the second half of the war. in numbers they were the second most numerous commonwealth combatant. Excellent seaboats they were slower than the DE's but enjoyed a much longer range and were although a little weak for surface and AA armament much more up to date on leading edge asw suites. Regards. M |
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OH CRAP!!!
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The Brits did have a backward DE in the Hunt class. They were "Escort Destroyers"
The River class were based on the "Sloops". Just an idea but maybe the term sloop seemed to shy and when they went to mass produced versions in wartime they wanted them to feel bigger, badder???? The main point is they had range, the ability to stay with a convoy the whole trip. The Hunts class EDs (never saw them listed as such but???) were often used in destroyer roles but convoy escorts as well. IMO, the River class type were the best all around suited to ASW convoy protection. Wulfmann
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