The Earth Day Concert

XabbaRus · 04-24-07, 01:29 PM

You know how a whole bunch of pop singers around the world are going to be doing this earth aid concert to "raise our awareness" of climate change?

I have been wondering if anyone has worked out howmuch these concerts are going to contribute to carbon emissions.

You have to look at the electricity being produced to power all the equipment, the impact of people travelling too and from the event, road, rail and air. So anyone think it is just a bunch of BS with most of the participants doing it to keep their profileup and looking like they care, eg Chris Martin from ColdPlay?

Where are all the ones who did Band Aid 20 etc.....

04-24-07, 01:36 PM

Spot on.

STEED · 04-24-07, 01:37 PM

It's far to late to do a bloody thing about it.

Tchocky · 04-24-07, 01:38 PM

Nope, Earth Day Concert is certified carbon neutral. Took me 3 seconds to find that out
As regards attendants, they're most likely paying/donating

04-24-07, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Nope, Earth Day Concert is certified carbon neutral. Took me 3 seconds to find that out
As regards attendants, they're most likely paying/donating

That is another interesting thing about the 'global warming' debate. Seems one can buy his/her way out of it, either by direct payments/donations or carbon credits. I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis? Sound like the indulgences/dispensations the Catholic Church used to sell for entrance to heaven.

Tchocky · 04-24-07, 01:50 PM

It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p

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I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis?

money can be exchanged for goods and services

04-24-07, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p

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I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis?

money can be exchanged for goods and services

And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.

August · 04-24-07, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p

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I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis?

money can be exchanged for goods and services

And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.

Not only that, the devil is in the definitions. Do they include everything? Such as the gas people used to get to the concert, the power and pollution caused to advertize it? The trash it generated? I wonder...

bradclark1 · 04-24-07, 02:42 PM

I look at it this way. I'm kind of green but my thinking behind it and probably behind a lot of greenies is to push hard for research and alternatives.
Every time this comes up the choir begins about how shallow thinking people thinks that to be green you have to drive a horse and buggy. Its not about switching off every light when not in use it's about finding a different way.

STEED · 04-24-07, 02:48 PM

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horse and buggy.

Summer is here, a horse and cart lots of fresh air and free horse sh*t for the garden.

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-24-07, 03:17 PM

I'd go if there was actually a band worth going to see going :rotfl:

Tchocky · 04-24-07, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.

Yeah, charities are only in it to line their pockets

04-24-07, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

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Originally Posted by waste gate

And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.

Yeah, charities are only in it to line their pockets

And to think I thought it was about saving the planet!!??!!:rotfl: :rotfl:

U-533 · 04-24-07, 05:09 PM

http://newsbusters.org/node/12226

Good luck to ya.

KevinB · 04-26-07, 10:57 AM

The only ones who will be benefiting albeit they're doing it free will be the artists themselves. After the concert watch their album sales soar.

04-24-07, 01:29 PM	#1
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The Earth Day Concert You know how a whole bunch of pop singers around the world are going to be doing this earth aid concert to "raise our awareness" of climate change? I have been wondering if anyone has worked out howmuch these concerts are going to contribute to carbon emissions. You have to look at the electricity being produced to power all the equipment, the impact of people travelling too and from the event, road, rail and air. So anyone think it is just a bunch of BS with most of the participants doing it to keep their profileup and looking like they care, eg Chris Martin from ColdPlay? Where are all the ones who did Band Aid 20 etc..... __________________

04-24-07, 01:37 PM	#3
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	It's far to late to do a bloody thing about it. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

04-24-07, 01:38 PM	#4
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Nope, Earth Day Concert is certified carbon neutral. Took me 3 seconds to find that out As regards attendants, they're most likely paying/donating __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

04-24-07, 03:17 PM	#11
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	I'd go if there was actually a band worth going to see going :rotfl: __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

04-24-07, 01:36 PM	#2
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Spot on.

04-24-07, 02:42 PM	#9
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I look at it this way. I'm kind of green but my thinking behind it and probably behind a lot of greenies is to push hard for research and alternatives. Every time this comes up the choir begins about how shallow thinking people thinks that to be green you have to drive a horse and buggy. Its not about switching off every light when not in use it's about finding a different way.

04-24-07, 05:09 PM	#14
U-533 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: On my Boat Posts: 594 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	http://newsbusters.org/node/12226 Good luck to ya.

04-26-07, 10:57 AM	#15
KevinB Planesman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 195 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The only ones who will be benefiting albeit they're doing it free will be the artists themselves. After the concert watch their album sales soar.