Radar and Sonar are unfinished stations? (solved)

gronbek · 03-19-07, 02:05 PM

Hi,

I just started one of the quick missions.
According to manual they should be operatable, but they really are not.

Radar could not detect a merchant vessel that I had targeted and the crew was busy shooting with the deck gun at. I was circling around target and there was no detection with Sonar either. Some buttons at radar station are highlighted with mouse cursor but have no function. It is also not possible to manually use the direction handlers at the stations.

This is really shocking. Either I am a complete idiot who cant discover the controls or this game is not finished.
Please have a look at the manual page for radar and sonar. Pictures in manual are so small it is impossible to read the information. Probably because the stations really dont work.

<edited by Drebbel: It is not allowed to publish parts of the manual in this forum, just describe what you are referring too, if needed include the page numbers>

BR Anders

moosenoodles · 03-19-07, 02:08 PM

Yup i posted the about the directional handles not working in the bug thread... shame huh..

Payoff · 03-19-07, 02:16 PM

Hope that patch is in the works.

Sulikate · 03-19-07, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payoff

Hope that patch is in the works.

I agree!

gronbek · 03-19-07, 03:14 PM

Hi,

I am shocked by this.

I am seriously concidering going back to SH3.
And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations.
The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme. I wonder what else is not working in this Sim?

BR Anders

mookiemookie · 03-19-07, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gronbek

Hi,

I am shocked by this.

I am seriously concidering going back to SH3.
And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations.
The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme. I wonder what else is not working in this Sim?

BR Anders

SH3 was no better in this regard. There were things in the manual that were left out of the game.

malkuth74 · 03-19-07, 03:18 PM

The stations are Their but don't work? When you used sonar were you dived? And are you sure your sub had radar?

Some other guy posted that he used Radar to track ships during fog. So I'm hoping you just don't understand what going on, or your sub does not have Radar yet.

Payoff · 03-19-07, 03:20 PM

In another thread Neal said he uses the Home & End keys to rotate the sonar head, and someone else said you have to be at 25m to pick up a sonar contact. Are you finding this as well?

Arrowhead2k1 · 03-19-07, 03:21 PM

Yeah, make sure you dive to use the sonar as the hydrophones need to be in the water. Those are the most important stations for any subsim, how can they not finish them!

Onkel Neal · 03-19-07, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gronbek

Hi,

I just started one of the quick missions.
According to manual they should be operatable, but they really are not.

Radar could not detect a merchant vessel that I had targeted and the crew was busy shooting with the deck gun at. I was circling around target and there was no detection with Sonar either. Some buttons at radar station are highlighted with mouse cursor but have no function. It is also not possible to manually use the direction handlers at the stations.

This is really shocking. Either I am a complete idiot who cant discover the controls or this game is not finished.
Please have a look at the manual page for radar and sonar. Pictures in manual are so small it is impossible to read the information. Probably because the stations really dont work.

<edited by Drebbel: It is not allowed to publish parts of the manual in this forum, just describe what you are referring too, if needed include the page numbers>

BR Anders

Yep, I've been wondering about that myself…

I think you're right, it is "not finished" as far as going to the screen and twirling the dial like SH3 and 2. The only function I can get out of it are the toolbar buttons at the bottom when you are in sonar: report closest contacts, track contact, etc. That works pretty well; I have played several missions with 100% realism and the "report closest contact" seems to work and is the only way at 100% realism to track a DD on your tail. SH3 had that but also have the first person control of the actual machine. Check and see if the HOME/END buttons work for you. Regarding not getting sonar contacts all the time when you think you should, that problem existed in SH3, too. I think….

Radar seems to be the same as sonar, best I can tell. But on some subs, you can turn on the radar using the toolbar buttons in the radar station (not the switches on the machine, they rarely seem to work). I have gotten the radar screen to come on and make a few revolutions, then it seems to go off again. It may be a setting that the game thinks the sub is underwater... Still, the radar AI guy will report on contacts, that's about all I have seen work.

Let's all sing the Patch Song….

When will the game be released?
When it's ready, when it's ready, when it's ready!
When will the game be released?
When it's ready, when it's ready, and not a day too soon!

The game is out, but it's not finished!
We'll fix it in the patch, in the patch, in the patch...
The game is out, but it's not finished!
We'll fix it in the patch, in the patch, trust us, guys.

When is the next patch, to fix the last few items?
<crickets chirping>

Gizzmoe · 03-19-07, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gronbek

And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations.
The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme.

Please, don´t jump to conclusions before it is even 100% clear that those stations don´t work. Besides, there´s nothing that a patch can´t solve.

Paajtor · 03-19-07, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Check and see if the HOME/END buttons work for you.

Are those keys specific to SH4, or did they have a function in SH3 as well?
If the latter is the case...I didn't know that.

gronbek · 03-19-07, 03:30 PM

And how strange is not this. Last tutorial mish you are assigned a boat.
Please read the tutorial mission objectives and then look at radar station. Its not available!

elite_hunter_sh3 · 03-19-07, 04:00 PM

omg, it looks so grainy

when i get itim taking some high res screenies

moosenoodles · 03-19-07, 04:29 PM

the grainy as u put it is the filter film effect, but without using it dont look as good then due to the *cough* bug, I wont mention it been said enough hehe..

03-19-07, 02:05 PM	#1
gronbek Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 54 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Radar and Sonar are unfinished stations? (solved) Hi, I just started one of the quick missions. According to manual they should be operatable, but they really are not. Radar could not detect a merchant vessel that I had targeted and the crew was busy shooting with the deck gun at. I was circling around target and there was no detection with Sonar either. Some buttons at radar station are highlighted with mouse cursor but have no function. It is also not possible to manually use the direction handlers at the stations. This is really shocking. Either I am a complete idiot who cant discover the controls or this game is not finished. Please have a look at the manual page for radar and sonar. Pictures in manual are so small it is impossible to read the information. Probably because the stations really dont work. <edited by Drebbel: It is not allowed to publish parts of the manual in this forum, just describe what you are referring too, if needed include the page numbers> BR Anders Last edited by Drebbel; 03-19-07 at 02:54 PM.

03-19-07, 02:16 PM	#3
Payoff Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nash Town, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Hope that patch is in the works. __________________ "Hit Shokaku class carrier with three out of six torpedos. Recieved 105 depth charges during three hour period. Heard four terrific explosions in the direction of target, two and one half hours after attack. Believe that baby sank!" Lieutenant Commander Herman Kossler USS Cavalla

03-19-07, 03:18 PM	#7
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	The stations are Their but don't work? When you used sonar were you dived? And are you sure your sub had radar? Some other guy posted that he used Radar to track ships during fog. So I'm hoping you just don't understand what going on, or your sub does not have Radar yet. __________________

03-19-07, 03:20 PM	#8
Payoff Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nash Town, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	In another thread Neal said he uses the Home & End keys to rotate the sonar head, and someone else said you have to be at 25m to pick up a sonar contact. Are you finding this as well? __________________ "Hit Shokaku class carrier with three out of six torpedos. Recieved 105 depth charges during three hour period. Heard four terrific explosions in the direction of target, two and one half hours after attack. Believe that baby sank!" Lieutenant Commander Herman Kossler USS Cavalla

03-19-07, 02:08 PM	#2
moosenoodles Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 102 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Yup i posted the about the directional handles not working in the bug thread... shame huh..

03-19-07, 03:14 PM	#5
gronbek Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 54 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi, I am shocked by this. I am seriously concidering going back to SH3. And this is really not a bug in that term. This was left out. And its really sad that the manual is describing functional stations. The manual is lying and there is no mentioned about this in the readme. I wonder what else is not working in this Sim? BR Anders

03-19-07, 03:21 PM	#9
Arrowhead2k1 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 112 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Yeah, make sure you dive to use the sonar as the hydrophones need to be in the water. Those are the most important stations for any subsim, how can they not finish them!

03-19-07, 03:30 PM	#13
gronbek Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 54 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And how strange is not this. Last tutorial mish you are assigned a boat. Please read the tutorial mission objectives and then look at radar station. Its not available!

03-19-07, 04:00 PM	#14
elite_hunter_sh3 The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,376 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	omg, it looks so grainy when i get itim taking some high res screenies

03-19-07, 04:29 PM	#15
moosenoodles Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 102 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	the grainy as u put it is the filter film effect, but without using it dont look as good then due to the cough bug, I wont mention it been said enough hehe..