if there was a new GWX RPM chart, would you use it for hydrophone hunting?

raduz · 02-08-07, 04:08 AM

just wanna know if it is worth to do...

Mooncatt · 02-08-07, 04:12 AM

yes i reckon i would be easy to work out the targets speed etc

Abd_von_Mumit · 02-08-07, 04:26 AM

Definitely yes. I'm a heavy user of hydrophones and it would add even more immersion to the game.

Tiny · 02-08-07, 05:51 AM

Right now I'm to lazy and impatient for that.

I manage to get into a good firing position everytime I encounter something so i'm happy with that.

But I'm still in the process of discovering GWX features. =]

DrMilton · 02-08-07, 06:04 AM

I don't know if GWX uses different rpms than stock game. I certainly use rpm identification. I find it quick and efficient. What I haven't found is a chart for warship rpms, only merchants. Anyone knows anything?

robbo180265 · 02-08-07, 06:11 AM

If someone wants to make it - I'm all for it

RawRecruit · 02-08-07, 06:14 AM

I'd be interested in learning how they used hydrophones for speed, direction, etc, but I wouldn't use it in game proper. When I play, I'm the captain and I have crew whose job it is to listen...

raduz · 02-08-07, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMilton

I don't know if GWX uses different rpms than stock game.

It does. And if there was a " GWX hydrophone hunting mod", it would definitely use the stock game propeler sounds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrMilton

What I haven't found is a chart for warship rpms, only merchants. Anyone knows anything?

Yes, there is a british ASW RPM chart by Greyrider. You can find it here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=86508

nevertheless, there are no american warships and remember, you have to replace the GWX propeler sounds by the stock ones if you want to use the chart.

Jimbuna · 02-08-07, 07:37 AM

YEP

...I'd be interested in that

ReallyDedPoet · 02-08-07, 07:50 AM

Sounds interesting.

DrMilton · 02-08-07, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raduz

Yes, there is a british ASW RPM chart by Greyrider. You can find it here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=86508

Thanx, I will try it.

raduz · 02-08-07, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrMilton

Quote:

Originally Posted by raduz

Yes, there is a british ASW RPM chart by Greyrider. You can find it here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=86508

Thanx, I will try it.

you are welcome, go ahead

Sailor Steve · 02-08-07, 11:44 AM

I'll have to recheck my books, but the RPMs listed on that chart have nothing to do with real life.

The fact is real submariners tried firing without visual contact, and failed every time.

raduz · 02-08-07, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'll have to recheck my books, but the RPMs listed on that chart have nothing to do with real life.

The fact is real submariners tried firing without visual contact, and failed every time.

why do you think so? let me quote greyriders discussion on this topic :

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redwine

Mmhh... :hmm: I think so that was not the method in that age.

... in WW2 age, the periscope was used to determine range.

I am not sure they can determine propeller turns/min in that age, plus they need the data about how many knots per turns is corresponding to that ship. I think so they had not that data in that age.

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Originally Posted by greyrider

i hate to say this, but redwine has given you wrong information, this method was used by american submarines in ww II.
propeller pitch was known then as it is now. TMA is a more modern way now. but not then.
below is taken from fleet submarine.com, which is all about wwII
fleet submarines of the american fleet.

http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/

How to take a turn count
1. Train the hydrophone directly on the bearing where the prop beats are loudest.

2. Turn the prop-count detector ON. It may bring out the beats more clearly. (If it does not, turn it OFF.)

3. Notice whether the beats are accented or unaccented. Accented beats go CHUG, chug, chug (three-bladed propeller)-or CHUG, chug, chug, chug (four-bladed propeller). Unaccented beats go chug, chug, chug, chug, chug.

4. Get in rhythm with the beats by pumping your arm up and down. If there is an accented beat, let your hand come down with every accented CHUG -or if the beats are all the same, on every chug.

5. Count the number of times you pump your hand down in 15 seconds.

6. Multiply this count by 4 to get the number of rpm (revolutions per minute). Report the rpm immediately. For example, if your 15-second count is 24, the rpm will be 96, and you will report: "JP, turn count is ze-ro nines six. Good count." If the beats are so rapid that you are not sure of the accuracy of your count, report: "Poor count."

7. After you have reported, make sure that the prop-count detector switch is OFF.

as you can see, it was used in ww II.

http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/

High Voltage · 02-08-07, 01:05 PM

definitely!! been interested in trying out this method and seeing if it's worth it - especially for attacking ships in really bad weather!!!

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02-08-07, 04:08 AM	#1
raduz Engineer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slovakia Posts: 205 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	if there was a new GWX RPM chart, would you use it for hydrophone hunting? just wanna know if it is worth to do...

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Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	yes i reckon i would be easy to work out the targets speed etc __________________

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Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	Definitely yes. I'm a heavy user of hydrophones and it would add even more immersion to the game. __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

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Tiny Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Submerged Posts: 105 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	Right now I'm to lazy and impatient for that. I manage to get into a good firing position everytime I encounter something so i'm happy with that. But I'm still in the process of discovering GWX features. =] Last edited by Tiny; 02-08-07 at 06:11 AM.

02-08-07, 06:04 AM	#5
DrMilton Gunner Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Right in the middle of it... Posts: 94 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't know if GWX uses different rpms than stock game. I certainly use rpm identification. I find it quick and efficient. What I haven't found is a chart for warship rpms, only merchants. Anyone knows anything?

02-08-07, 06:11 AM	#6
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	If someone wants to make it - I'm all for it

02-08-07, 06:14 AM	#7
RawRecruit Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 50 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd be interested in learning how they used hydrophones for speed, direction, etc, but I wouldn't use it in game proper. When I play, I'm the captain and I have crew whose job it is to listen...

02-08-07, 07:37 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	YEP ...I'd be interested in that __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,884 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Sounds interesting. __________________ Back in the Day

02-08-07, 11:44 AM	#13
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'll have to recheck my books, but the RPMs listed on that chart have nothing to do with real life. The fact is real submariners tried firing without visual contact, and failed every time. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-08-07, 01:05 PM	#15
High Voltage Chief Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U-33. Depth Charges...sinking.. Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	definitely!! been interested in trying out this method and seeing if it's worth it - especially for attacking ships in really bad weather!!! __________________ The new-moon night is black as ink. Off Hatteras the tankers sink. While sadly Roosevelt counts the score-- Some fifty thousand tons--by MOHR