Advice on Convoy attack needed

Penelope_Grey · 02-26-07, 03:44 PM

Hi guys,

I know I have been playing a month, but I am currently faced with a difficult situation. I was tailing a convoy out of Giberalter hanging back waiting till night to fall. So I waited and waited and waited, avoided getting caught, night has come.

So I was all set, saved my game ready to begin my attack. There is only one problem. I am coming at the convoy from its 180 and I am already inside the escort screen.

So as I chase up to get ahead of the convoy at ahead flank I always everytime seem to get surprised by this corvette. The conditions are, clouds none, fog light, winds 5 meters p second.

What would you advise me to do to get my boat into attack position which would minimise my risk of getting detected, currently I tried running pararell to the convoy so, should I go outside the escort screen give the convoy a wide berth and then charge back in on the front?

Any advice is appreciated. I could ask my older brother, but, I want to get by on my own steam. And develop my own tactics.

Brag · 02-26-07, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Hi guys,

I know I have been playing a month, but I am currently faced with a difficult situation. I was tailing a convoy out of Giberalter hanging back waiting till night to fall. So I waited and waited and waited, avoided getting caught, night has come.

So I was all set, saved my game ready to begin my attack. There is only one problem. I am coming at the convoy from its 180 and I am already inside the escort screen.

So as I chase up to get ahead of the convoy at ahead flank I always everytime seem to get surprised by this corvette. The conditions are, clouds none, fog light, winds 5 meters p second.

What would you advise me to do to get my boat into attack position which would minimise my risk of getting detected, currently I tried running pararell to the convoy so, should I go outside the escort screen give the convoy a wide berth and then charge back in on the front?

Any advice is appreciated. I could ask my older brother, but, I want to get by on my own steam. And develop my own tactics.

I would go outside the screen, a good 10 Kms out and race ahead, get into ambush position, submerge and let them come. You may want to read my article on connvoy attacks on my webbie.

Good hunting

danlisa · 02-26-07, 03:53 PM

The weather is not to your advantage.

I would break off the attack and then set a parallel course to them but be outside of visual range. Make stops for hydrophone soundings. Travel at flank speed to get in front of the convoy then position yourself for an ambush.

Be warned the convoys coming out of Gib make a few course changes.

You had already reached that conclusion, trust in your instincts Kalean.

Penelope_Grey · 02-26-07, 03:55 PM

I just read it.

Generally I know the position of the convoys course. They are only doing 6 knots. I am doing 17 to 18 knots. So I think my best bet would be to go wide then bomb back in and use the vertical.

Thanks.

Penelope_Grey · 02-26-07, 03:57 PM

Thanks danlisa. I'll give it a go later on tonight. I got to go to tesco pick up some essentials.

I'll let you know how it goes, but I only got 4 torps so I may just nail the fiji cruiser in the middle.

robbo180265 · 02-26-07, 03:59 PM

I would do what the others are suggesting. Swing out wide,fly past them and then attack from the front at a two O'clock or ten O'clock position come in under the lead escort (go silent when near). When clear come up to periscope depth and fill your boots.

Works for me

(most of the time)

Brag · 02-26-07, 04:29 PM

As Danlisa says--word of caution. If convoy turns toward you, you can run smack into the escorts, so stay at low TC. I got killed in the same are doing what you are going to do. In this case low visibility does not work in your favor.

Heibges · 02-26-07, 04:54 PM

You say you are already inside the destroyer screen?

From which bearing are you being surprised by the Corvette?

I've done a surface attack against a convoy from the stern, but it is tough because your eels will have to chase their targets.

Definitely a Real Time situation.

Penelope_Grey · 02-26-07, 05:04 PM

Bearing 300 to 340 is where he is sweeping. Basically, I prefer to attack convoys on the surface at night its my preference, but till now I have been fortunate that everytime I have encountered a convoy I have been coming from the front, or in from the sides, so have pretty much been in a strong attack position already.

This time however, not in a good attack position. My guess is there are only 4 perimeter escorts, with the Fiji in the middle of the convoy. So its not heavily escorted.

I am over deep water as well so diving is no issue. I am still not quite ready to play yet, Im having a little surf on the web looking for any mods I may like etc... then... I will go have a crack at it shortly.

CruiseTorpedo · 02-26-07, 06:31 PM

Buy this book about uboat tactics, it's very handy and helped me a lot!!

http://www.amazon.com/U-Boat-Command.../dp/0939631210

It's packed full of methods for surface and submerged day and night attacks, includes every from stalking, where to get positioned, on and on. You'll love it! Pretty cheap too at 9 bucks, I bought it at the u505 museum in chicago.

Heibges · 02-26-07, 06:36 PM

The Uboat Commanders Handbook is the best $9 a uboat subsimmer can spend.

It will give you step by step instructions for:

1. Standard UBoat SOP
2. Conducting the Overhaul Manuever
3. When to use hydrophones.
4. Nightime Surface Attack
5. Underwater Surprise Torpedo Attack
6. Gunnery Raid
7. Operations against Convoys
8. Avoiding Asdic

AVGWarhawk · 02-26-07, 06:45 PM

To hell with that end round!!!!!!!!!!!! Surface the boat..full ahead...cut off the battery charging...you will need all the horses from the diesels. Man(woman) the deck gun.....have your torps prepared...depth set, AOB, speed of target, doors open!!!!!!! Press the attack!!!!!!(BDU) Come in standing on the bridge like you own the world....let them have all the tubes when you see the whites of their eyes. Watch 'em scatter from the hell fire and brimstone!!!! The DD will be busy wondering just what kind of fool Kaleun would pull this stunt!!! In the mass confusion submerge!!!! Rinse and repeat

This always works for me on patrol #2

GT182 · 02-26-07, 07:05 PM

:hmm: AVG, that's why you always died on Patrol #2.

Penelope_Grey · 02-26-07, 07:17 PM

I did it!! I did a standard box intercept and I torpedoed the Fiji cruiser for just short of 11,000 tons! Oh I can't wait to see the renown!

I am currently at 80m skulking at silent running, I already had one lot of Depthcharges fall on me. but for now I am calling it a night, I'll escape the Corvette later. Might have to hit 160m if his black swan friend shows up.

AVGWarhawk · 02-26-07, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GT182

:hmm: AVG, that's why you always died on Patrol #2.

Did not say anything about that in the operating manual I found in the glovebox!!!

02-26-07, 03:44 PM	#1
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Advice on Convoy attack needed Hi guys, I know I have been playing a month, but I am currently faced with a difficult situation. I was tailing a convoy out of Giberalter hanging back waiting till night to fall. So I waited and waited and waited, avoided getting caught, night has come. So I was all set, saved my game ready to begin my attack. There is only one problem. I am coming at the convoy from its 180 and I am already inside the escort screen. So as I chase up to get ahead of the convoy at ahead flank I always everytime seem to get surprised by this corvette. The conditions are, clouds none, fog light, winds 5 meters p second. What would you advise me to do to get my boat into attack position which would minimise my risk of getting detected, currently I tried running pararell to the convoy so, should I go outside the escort screen give the convoy a wide berth and then charge back in on the front? Any advice is appreciated. I could ask my older brother, but, I want to get by on my own steam. And develop my own tactics. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

02-26-07, 03:53 PM	#3
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	The weather is not to your advantage. I would break off the attack and then set a parallel course to them but be outside of visual range. Make stops for hydrophone soundings. Travel at flank speed to get in front of the convoy then position yourself for an ambush. Be warned the convoys coming out of Gib make a few course changes. You had already reached that conclusion, trust in your instincts Kalean. __________________

02-26-07, 03:55 PM	#4
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I just read it. Generally I know the position of the convoys course. They are only doing 6 knots. I am doing 17 to 18 knots. So I think my best bet would be to go wide then bomb back in and use the vertical. Thanks. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

02-26-07, 03:57 PM	#5
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks danlisa. I'll give it a go later on tonight. I got to go to tesco pick up some essentials. I'll let you know how it goes, but I only got 4 torps so I may just nail the fiji cruiser in the middle. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

02-26-07, 04:29 PM	#7
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	As Danlisa says--word of caution. If convoy turns toward you, you can run smack into the escorts, so stay at low TC. I got killed in the same are doing what you are going to do. In this case low visibility does not work in your favor. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-26-07, 03:59 PM	#6
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	I would do what the others are suggesting. Swing out wide,fly past them and then attack from the front at a two O'clock or ten O'clock position come in under the lead escort (go silent when near). When clear come up to periscope depth and fill your boots. Works for me (most of the time)

02-26-07, 04:54 PM	#8
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	You say you are already inside the destroyer screen? From which bearing are you being surprised by the Corvette? I've done a surface attack against a convoy from the stern, but it is tough because your eels will have to chase their targets. Definitely a Real Time situation. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

02-26-07, 05:04 PM	#9
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bearing 300 to 340 is where he is sweeping. Basically, I prefer to attack convoys on the surface at night its my preference, but till now I have been fortunate that everytime I have encountered a convoy I have been coming from the front, or in from the sides, so have pretty much been in a strong attack position already. This time however, not in a good attack position. My guess is there are only 4 perimeter escorts, with the Fiji in the middle of the convoy. So its not heavily escorted. I am over deep water as well so diving is no issue. I am still not quite ready to play yet, Im having a little surf on the web looking for any mods I may like etc... then... I will go have a crack at it shortly. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

02-26-07, 06:31 PM	#10
CruiseTorpedo Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 112 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Buy this book about uboat tactics, it's very handy and helped me a lot!! http://www.amazon.com/U-Boat-Command.../dp/0939631210 It's packed full of methods for surface and submerged day and night attacks, includes every from stalking, where to get positioned, on and on. You'll love it! Pretty cheap too at 9 bucks, I bought it at the u505 museum in chicago.

02-26-07, 06:36 PM	#11
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The Uboat Commanders Handbook is the best $9 a uboat subsimmer can spend. It will give you step by step instructions for: 1. Standard UBoat SOP 2. Conducting the Overhaul Manuever 3. When to use hydrophones. 4. Nightime Surface Attack 5. Underwater Surprise Torpedo Attack 6. Gunnery Raid 7. Operations against Convoys 8. Avoiding Asdic __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

02-26-07, 06:45 PM	#12
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	To hell with that end round!!!!!!!!!!!! Surface the boat..full ahead...cut off the battery charging...you will need all the horses from the diesels. Man(woman) the deck gun.....have your torps prepared...depth set, AOB, speed of target, doors open!!!!!!! Press the attack!!!!!!(BDU) Come in standing on the bridge like you own the world....let them have all the tubes when you see the whites of their eyes. Watch 'em scatter from the hell fire and brimstone!!!! The DD will be busy wondering just what kind of fool Kaleun would pull this stunt!!! In the mass confusion submerge!!!! Rinse and repeat This always works for me on patrol #2 __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-26-07, 07:05 PM	#13
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	:hmm: AVG, that's why you always died on Patrol #2. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

02-26-07, 07:17 PM	#14
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I did it!! I did a standard box intercept and I torpedoed the Fiji cruiser for just short of 11,000 tons! Oh I can't wait to see the renown! I am currently at 80m skulking at silent running, I already had one lot of Depthcharges fall on me. but for now I am calling it a night, I'll escape the Corvette later. Might have to hit 160m if his black swan friend shows up. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!