GHG or KDB ?

Kpt. Kozloff · 02-27-07, 05:59 AM

Just out of curiosity, which one out of these two do you guys prefer and why? Pros and cons from your experience with these devices?
Thanks for the replies.

Jimbuna · 02-27-07, 06:02 AM

The upgrade (forgot which one...at work right now)....because it has a wider listening arc

hyperion2206 · 02-27-07, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Kozloff

Just out of curiosity, which one out of these two do you guys prefer and why? Pros and cons from your experience with these devices?
Thanks for the replies.

The KDB is better because it's pivotable and has a wider listening arc. A contra is that it brakes fairly easy under DC attack.

RawRecruit · 02-27-07, 06:26 AM

I've tended to always steer clear of the KDB because of the description that it breaks easily. I've recently tried upgrading to it, but managed to avoid any serious D/C attacks so far, so it's untested. Just how easily is it likely to break? Will it break before anything else, or is it at just risk when other damage is being incurred? Obviously it's a critical piece of kit, so I'd like to avoid losing it...

Warmonger · 02-27-07, 07:57 AM

It's not that breakable as in the description. You need a pretty close hit to have it damaged or even destroyed and by then a broken hydro is probably your lowest concern...

GOZO · 02-27-07, 08:01 AM

Aaand then there is the "Balkongerät" in mid 1943!!! Try it you'll like it!!

Lanzfeld · 02-27-07, 08:31 AM

When you get the KDB you do not lose the GHG. They are both there.

Steppenwolf · 02-27-07, 10:18 AM

GHG has about a 20 degree blind zone in front of the sub and about a 60 degree blind zone in the rear. KDB eliminates the front blind zone and reduces the rear one to about 40 degrees.

02-27-07, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steppenwolf

GHG has about a 20 degree blind zone in front of the sub and about a 60 degree blind zone in the rear. KDB eliminates the front blind zone and reduces the rear one to about 40 degrees.

Darn shame that manually using the hydrophones gives you a fully functional 360 degree listening area.

ref · 02-27-07, 02:29 PM

I think the limit is not a hard one, the hydro rotates 360º, the blind (should be deaf) spot it's because of your own propellers noise.

Ref

Steppenwolf · 02-27-07, 04:25 PM

@Ref
There is a blind(deaf) zone limit in the Sensors.dat file from the BearingMin and BearingMax entries. This zone seems to work correctly on the Navmap (the sonar contact line will not be updated properly when in that zone even if you are stopped) if your crew is running the sonar. However, as Albrecht Von Hesse points out, if you are at the Hydrophone control station running it yourself, I don't THINK the zones apply and you can hear in all directions.

Lanzfeld · 02-27-07, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Steppenwolf

@Ref
There is a blind(deaf) zone limit in the Sensors.dat file from the BearingMin and BearingMax entries. This zone seems to work correctly on the Navmap (the sonar contact line will not be updated properly when in that zone even if you are stopped) if your crew is running the sonar. However, as Albrecht Von Hesse points out, if you are at the Hydrophone control station running it yourself, I don't THINK the zones apply and you can hear in all directions.

This is part of the reason I always like to let my crew man the hydrophones and not me (also deckgun and flak)....but they are just to unreliable at detecting obvious things.

02-27-07, 05:59 AM	#1
Kpt. Kozloff Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jersey - Channel Islands, UK Posts: 305 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	GHG or KDB ? Just out of curiosity, which one out of these two do you guys prefer and why? Pros and cons from your experience with these devices? Thanks for the replies. __________________ GWX1.03/Cmdr2.7/plus all sorts of tweaks

02-27-07, 06:02 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The upgrade (forgot which one...at work right now)....because it has a wider listening arc __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-27-07, 08:01 AM	#6
GOZO Commander Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Linkoping, Sweden Posts: 479 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 0	Aaand then there is the "Balkongerät" in mid 1943!!! Try it you'll like it!! __________________ SHIV:TMo 2.5, RSRD, SCAF OLC, Ralle's modpack SHIV: WDAD, Med Campaign SHIII: GWX3 GOLD, OLCII Gold, ACM-reloaded interface mod, SHIIIcmndr 3.2, Full Realism/DiD SHIII: LSH3 2015 Cold Waters with all bells and whistles Finally SHV but still unmodded and still a noob....

02-27-07, 02:29 PM	#10
ref Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina Posts: 871 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think the limit is not a hard one, the hydro rotates 360º, the blind (should be deaf) spot it's because of your own propellers noise. Ref __________________

02-27-07, 06:26 AM	#4
RawRecruit Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 50 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've tended to always steer clear of the KDB because of the description that it breaks easily. I've recently tried upgrading to it, but managed to avoid any serious D/C attacks so far, so it's untested. Just how easily is it likely to break? Will it break before anything else, or is it at just risk when other damage is being incurred? Obviously it's a critical piece of kit, so I'd like to avoid losing it...

02-27-07, 07:57 AM	#5
Warmonger Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 266 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	It's not that breakable as in the description. You need a pretty close hit to have it damaged or even destroyed and by then a broken hydro is probably your lowest concern...

02-27-07, 08:31 AM	#7
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	When you get the KDB you do not lose the GHG. They are both there.

02-27-07, 10:18 AM	#8
Steppenwolf 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	GHG has about a 20 degree blind zone in front of the sub and about a 60 degree blind zone in the rear. KDB eliminates the front blind zone and reduces the rear one to about 40 degrees.

02-27-07, 04:25 PM	#11
Steppenwolf 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	@Ref There is a blind(deaf) zone limit in the Sensors.dat file from the BearingMin and BearingMax entries. This zone seems to work correctly on the Navmap (the sonar contact line will not be updated properly when in that zone even if you are stopped) if your crew is running the sonar. However, as Albrecht Von Hesse points out, if you are at the Hydrophone control station running it yourself, I don't THINK the zones apply and you can hear in all directions.