PYRO ship and no big bang!!!

aloe1 · 01-17-07, 07:48 AM

Hi i hit a pyro ship with two tim fish both exploded on contact impact. I was expecting ahuge explosion, but didnt get one! Am i not aiming at the right parts of the ship? and how do you find out what parts to hit, i know how to aim. I am running GWX. Maybe the ship was empty but it was on its way to Norway. I guess i am right in saying this is a ammo ship!!!

Thanks

danlisa · 01-17-07, 07:51 AM

Unless this happens with every Pyro ship you sink, then you don't have a problem. You won't get spectacular fireworks everytime.

LeafsFan · 01-17-07, 07:51 AM

IIRC GWX has tuned down the number of explosions you can expect.

HB

fabel · 01-17-07, 07:53 AM

Maybe the ship wasn't fully loaded.

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IRONxMortlock · 01-17-07, 07:57 AM

I've had this happen before but generally they blow up with a single fish. I've found when they don't immediately explode they can be tough nuts to crack.
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andy_311 · 01-17-07, 08:03 AM

I don't always get big booms with pyro ships because it's an ammo ship doesn't mean it got to carry ammo,I even hit a depot ship once and thinking it was resupplying all those subs,it would be fully loaded with things that go boom,it didn't.

Abd_von_Mumit · 01-17-07, 08:04 AM

It happened also to me - 2 hits into Pyro (3 m deep, impact trigger) and it even didn't sink. As it was in a convoy, I didn't manage to get close enough next time to finish the job. In the same time i also hit Whale Company Ship with 1 torpedo and it sunk like ton of steel at once... That was strange, but what to do? He could just carry water as ballast, couldn't he?

johan_d · 01-17-07, 08:13 AM

Just got one in the Med, and with four deckgun shots, it was over for it. Huge fire!
The rest of the patrol is very boring, no ships.. heading for the choke point around Lampedusa .. they have to pass there, 1941.

melnibonian · 01-17-07, 09:29 AM

If the ship sunk due to flooding there is no reason to see fireworks. If you want to get big explosions and one torpedo kill, try hitting the Pyro in the front part (under the first set of masts). At this spot the ammo bunkers are located, and you maximise the chance of a big explosion

hyperion2206 · 01-17-07, 10:47 AM

There's is a part of the Pyro which causes a huge explosion. If you manage to hit a Pyro right under her 1. mast it will explode 10 out of 10 times, so that could be called "cheating" but what do I care.:p:rotfl:

Sailor Steve · 01-17-07, 11:43 AM

Why were they labelled "Pyro"? Ammunition ships could and did explode spectacularly, but no one ever called them "Pyro" ships.

mookiemookie · 01-17-07, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Why were they labelled "Pyro"? Ammunition ships could and did explode spectacularly, but no one ever called them "Pyro" ships.

From my understanding, Pyro was the class of ammo ship. Nitro and Volcano classes existed as well, but I think those came after the war.

WilhelmSchulz. · 01-17-07, 02:54 PM

Aim for the foward crane. dose it every time.

bigboywooly · 01-17-07, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Why were they labelled "Pyro"? Ammunition ships could and did explode spectacularly, but no one ever called them "Pyro" ships.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/0501.htm

Steppenwolf · 01-17-07, 03:24 PM

Melnibonian, Hyperion2206 (or anyone),
How did you know that was the spot to shoot for in order to hit the ammo bunkers?

I know a few "general" rules, like the Engine Room is usually under the smokestack, The magazine is usually under a turret, but don't really know where to aim for anything else.

I like to use manual targeting and try and aim for a specific part of a ship (adds another challenge to the game) that will do more damage. Hitting it, of course, is another matter entirely.

Is there anywhere to look in the games cfg or other files that would help indicate a ship's general layout? I have a pdf indicating this for some of the original ships, but I know GWX changed a lot of things around and, of course, there is no info on the many new ships introduced. For that matter, anyone know if there IS any kind of damage increase (or other advantage) to hitting these kinds of spots in GWX? Info on how the new damage model works seems to be a little sparse.

Otherwise, the only way I would have figured out where the Pyro's bunkers were, would be to shoot at about 10 of them, in a different spot each time and see what seemed most effective. Not looking to blow up everything in one big blast, but since I have enough trouble just hitting the ship, I'd kind of like to know that I am at least aiming for the right spot. That way, if by some miracle I actually connect, it is at least increasing the damage a little.

01-17-07, 07:48 AM	#1
aloe1 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: soon to be perth in AUSSIE yippee Posts: 121 Downloads: 356 Uploads: 0	PYRO ship and no big bang!!! Hi i hit a pyro ship with two tim fish both exploded on contact impact. I was expecting ahuge explosion, but didnt get one! Am i not aiming at the right parts of the ship? and how do you find out what parts to hit, i know how to aim. I am running GWX. Maybe the ship was empty but it was on its way to Norway. I guess i am right in saying this is a ammo ship!!! Thanks

01-17-07, 07:51 AM	#2
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Unless this happens with every Pyro ship you sink, then you don't have a problem. You won't get spectacular fireworks everytime. __________________

01-17-07, 07:53 AM	#4
fabel Shore leave Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 70 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Maybe the ship wasn't fully loaded. Btw, CHECK MY AVATAR! __________________

01-17-07, 07:57 AM	#5
IRONxMortlock Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I've had this happen before but generally they blow up with a single fish. I've found when they don't immediately explode they can be tough nuts to crack. ________ Live sex webshows Last edited by IRONxMortlock; 08-14-11 at 02:33 PM.

01-17-07, 08:04 AM	#7
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	It happened also to me - 2 hits into Pyro (3 m deep, impact trigger) and it even didn't sink. As it was in a convoy, I didn't manage to get close enough next time to finish the job. In the same time i also hit Whale Company Ship with 1 torpedo and it sunk like ton of steel at once... That was strange, but what to do? He could just carry water as ballast, couldn't he? __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

01-17-07, 07:51 AM	#3
LeafsFan Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 332 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	IIRC GWX has tuned down the number of explosions you can expect. HB

01-17-07, 08:03 AM	#6
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	I don't always get big booms with pyro ships because it's an ammo ship doesn't mean it got to carry ammo,I even hit a depot ship once and thinking it was resupplying all those subs,it would be fully loaded with things that go boom,it didn't.

01-17-07, 08:13 AM	#8
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	Just got one in the Med, and with four deckgun shots, it was over for it. Huge fire! The rest of the patrol is very boring, no ships.. heading for the choke point around Lampedusa .. they have to pass there, 1941.

01-17-07, 09:29 AM	#9
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	If the ship sunk due to flooding there is no reason to see fireworks. If you want to get big explosions and one torpedo kill, try hitting the Pyro in the front part (under the first set of masts). At this spot the ammo bunkers are located, and you maximise the chance of a big explosion __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

01-17-07, 10:47 AM	#10
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	There's is a part of the Pyro which causes a huge explosion. If you manage to hit a Pyro right under her 1. mast it will explode 10 out of 10 times, so that could be called "cheating" but what do I care.:p:rotfl: __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

01-17-07, 11:43 AM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Why were they labelled "Pyro"? Ammunition ships could and did explode spectacularly, but no one ever called them "Pyro" ships. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-17-07, 02:54 PM	#13
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Aim for the foward crane. dose it every time. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

01-17-07, 03:24 PM	#15
Steppenwolf 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Melnibonian, Hyperion2206 (or anyone), How did you know that was the spot to shoot for in order to hit the ammo bunkers? I know a few "general" rules, like the Engine Room is usually under the smokestack, The magazine is usually under a turret, but don't really know where to aim for anything else. I like to use manual targeting and try and aim for a specific part of a ship (adds another challenge to the game) that will do more damage. Hitting it, of course, is another matter entirely. Is there anywhere to look in the games cfg or other files that would help indicate a ship's general layout? I have a pdf indicating this for some of the original ships, but I know GWX changed a lot of things around and, of course, there is no info on the many new ships introduced. For that matter, anyone know if there IS any kind of damage increase (or other advantage) to hitting these kinds of spots in GWX? Info on how the new damage model works seems to be a little sparse. Otherwise, the only way I would have figured out where the Pyro's bunkers were, would be to shoot at about 10 of them, in a different spot each time and see what seemed most effective. Not looking to blow up everything in one big blast, but since I have enough trouble just hitting the ship, I'd kind of like to know that I am at least aiming for the right spot. That way, if by some miracle I actually connect, it is at least increasing the damage a little.