Printers! Cheaper than diamonds

Onkel Neal · 06-01-06, 08:07 PM

Well, my fancy inkjet printer is about 6 months old and needing new cartidges. Epson R220, a full set will cost $80. A new printer will cost $90. That's nuts!

TLAM Strike · 06-01-06, 08:14 PM

Well yea. Thats the scam. Every printer I've own have been only around 10 bucks more than a single cartrage. In some case the printer came with two cartrages and was still only a few bucks more!

tycho102 · 06-01-06, 09:17 PM

I bought a Samsung color laser printer, and haven't looked back since.

Toner refill for all the colors + black runs a little over $200. I actually bought HP 8500 toner. Used about 2/3's of a bottle for an empty cartridge, and you don't even have to use the heat gun for the cartridges; Samsung puts a little plastic plug on each cartridge, I guess just for the ease of refilling them.

You get 5000+ sheets at 5%, per cartridge. The upfront cost might be a little "steep", but if you're using the thing, you definately come out on top where consumables are concerned. I'd guess the first refill breaks even with inkjets. If you replace your cartridges and imaging drum every 15k sheets, you're still money ahead.

$500 for the printer.
$230 for the all the toner
$5 for a pair of pliers from Target.
$3 for a roll of paper towels.
$.10 for the water to wet the paper towels.
3 minutes of time per cartridge, if you're being careful to keep the dust down (1min if not).

SmithN23 · 06-01-06, 09:27 PM

check out www.carrotink.com they have great prices and the ink works perfectly, and it is a lot cheaper, shipping is pretty fast too. if you were to buy from them you are looking at about 60 dollars for all of the cartridges, and shipping is only 5 or 10 bucks.

Bort · 06-01-06, 11:32 PM

I've had a brother laserjet since the late '90s and the darn thing is unstoppable. I think I've only refilled the toner a few times. Every once and a while somebody comes out with technology that does last!

Drebbel · 06-02-06, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, my fancy inkjet printer is about 6 months old and needing new cartidges. Epson R220, a full set will cost $80. A new printer will cost $90. That's nuts!

I guess you never bought razor blades

:rotfl:

werauchimmer · 06-02-06, 01:01 AM

I have my trusty old HP Laserjet 6P. Every few months I have to buy a new toner cartridge (refilling is possible, but, oh well, dirty). Reworked quality cartridges cost you around 25Euros and give you absolutely clear prints, not difference to the original HP cartridges. And Laserprints don´t smear when they get wet, in contrast to most inkjet prints. Did I mention that I have printed over 190K (yep, "K"!) Pages with that printer? And it never ONCE gave me problems.
Of course I need another printer for making colour prints, so if my 6P dies (if ever), i probably buy a colour laserprinter to save deskspace

PeriscopeDepth · 06-02-06, 01:10 AM

In some cases, such as when a store is having a sale, it IS cheaper to buy a new printer rather than new cartridges. That's just ridiculous.

PD

JScones · 06-02-06, 02:00 AM

I think this is simply a reflection of our modern "disposable" society.

And just imagine, in a few years' time it'll prolly be cheaper to buy a new car than refill the one you've got (OK, fundamentally a different argument, but you get what I mean)...

Konovalov · 06-02-06, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Drebbel

I guess you never bought razor blades

:rotfl:

Yes another example of the customer being screwed.

Skybird · 06-02-06, 05:31 AM

True men use a knife anyway.

Drebbel · 06-02-06, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

True men use a knife anyway.

True men don't shave ! Sissys use electric razors !

Konovalov · 06-02-06, 06:26 AM

I remember as a kid watching the film Dr Dolittle, the original 1960's version with Rex Harrison and being highly impressed with a novel way of shaving. I distinctly remember Rex Harrison (Dr Dolittle), standing on a piece of his own ships wreckage and shaving using a broken glass bottle whilst peering over the edge into the sea and using the reflection as a mirror. So forget all those triple blade technology razors and be a real man.

Skybird · 06-02-06, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

I remember as a kid watching the film Dr Dolittle, the original 1960's version with Rex Harrison and being highly impressed with a novel way of shaving. I distinctly remember Rex Harrison (Dr Dolittle), standing on a piece of his own ships wreckage and shaving using a broken glass bottle whilst peering over the edge into the sea and using the reflection as a mirror. So forget all those triple blade technology razors and be a real man.

Aren't we already quattro bladed with microvibration stimulating? What's next? Five X-scissor-doublettes with semi-automatic single-hair-laser targetting device and accoustic confirmation when a hair successfully got cut?? Whenever I am at work and see some non-thinker buying a blister with four super-blades and pays 24 bucks for that, I smile to the outside, but inside I burst with laughter.

Konovalov · 06-02-06, 08:50 AM

It really is marketing gone silly isn't it?

06-01-06, 08:07 PM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Printers! Cheaper than diamonds Well, my fancy inkjet printer is about 6 months old and needing new cartidges. Epson R220, a full set will cost $80. A new printer will cost $90. That's nuts! __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

06-01-06, 08:14 PM	#2
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Well yea. Thats the scam. Every printer I've own have been only around 10 bucks more than a single cartrage. In some case the printer came with two cartrages and was still only a few bucks more! __________________

06-01-06, 09:17 PM	#3
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I bought a Samsung color laser printer, and haven't looked back since. Toner refill for all the colors + black runs a little over $200. I actually bought HP 8500 toner. Used about 2/3's of a bottle for an empty cartridge, and you don't even have to use the heat gun for the cartridges; Samsung puts a little plastic plug on each cartridge, I guess just for the ease of refilling them. You get 5000+ sheets at 5%, per cartridge. The upfront cost might be a little "steep", but if you're using the thing, you definately come out on top where consumables are concerned. I'd guess the first refill breaks even with inkjets. If you replace your cartridges and imaging drum every 15k sheets, you're still money ahead. $500 for the printer. $230 for the all the toner $5 for a pair of pliers from Target. $3 for a roll of paper towels. $.10 for the water to wet the paper towels. 3 minutes of time per cartridge, if you're being careful to keep the dust down (1min if not). __________________ My little Silent Hunter 4 repository

06-01-06, 09:27 PM	#4
SmithN23 Gunner Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 91 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	check out www.carrotink.com they have great prices and the ink works perfectly, and it is a lot cheaper, shipping is pretty fast too. if you were to buy from them you are looking at about 60 dollars for all of the cartridges, and shipping is only 5 or 10 bucks. __________________ The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Bruke

06-01-06, 11:32 PM	#5
Bort Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Studying in Atlanta Posts: 919 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I've had a brother laserjet since the late '90s and the darn thing is unstoppable. I think I've only refilled the toner a few times. Every once and a while somebody comes out with technology that does last! __________________ GT Aerospace

06-02-06, 01:01 AM	#7
werauchimmer Seaman Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have my trusty old HP Laserjet 6P. Every few months I have to buy a new toner cartridge (refilling is possible, but, oh well, dirty). Reworked quality cartridges cost you around 25Euros and give you absolutely clear prints, not difference to the original HP cartridges. And Laserprints don´t smear when they get wet, in contrast to most inkjet prints. Did I mention that I have printed over 190K (yep, "K"!) Pages with that printer? And it never ONCE gave me problems. Of course I need another printer for making colour prints, so if my 6P dies (if ever), i probably buy a colour laserprinter to save deskspace

06-02-06, 01:10 AM	#8
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	In some cases, such as when a store is having a sale, it IS cheaper to buy a new printer rather than new cartridges. That's just ridiculous. PD

06-02-06, 02:00 AM	#9
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I think this is simply a reflection of our modern "disposable" society. And just imagine, in a few years' time it'll prolly be cheaper to buy a new car than refill the one you've got (OK, fundamentally a different argument, but you get what I mean)...

06-02-06, 05:31 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	True men use a knife anyway. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-02-06, 06:26 AM	#13
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I remember as a kid watching the film Dr Dolittle, the original 1960's version with Rex Harrison and being highly impressed with a novel way of shaving. I distinctly remember Rex Harrison (Dr Dolittle), standing on a piece of his own ships wreckage and shaving using a broken glass bottle whilst peering over the edge into the sea and using the reflection as a mirror. So forget all those triple blade technology razors and be a real man. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

06-02-06, 08:50 AM	#15
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	It really is marketing gone silly isn't it? __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)