Password Strength

Rockstar · 03-26-21, 09:19 AM

An eye opener how fast people crack open your bank account.

August · 03-26-21, 10:23 AM

Why I won't let my bank set up an online account.

Rockstar · 03-26-21, 11:00 AM

I do, but I don't use words found in any dictionary. Just random use of no less than a combination of 12 (more the better) letters, special characters and numbers with a 2FA or two step verification. If your credit/debit cards get compromised its usually because people just aren't paying attention or save them in an online retailer provided wallet. Rather than attack individuals hackers will hack through a retailers security to get your and a lot of others information. I also shop online but never save credit card numbers as retailers try to convince us 'for your convenience'.

Should add too, my bank allows me to freeze and unfreeze my card between use. I also set up alerts and receive a text every time a card is used for a purchase by me or anyone, very convenient. That and I only browse using HTTPS only mode helps too.

Moonlight · 03-26-21, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Why I won't let my bank set up an online account.

Me too,

here in the UK we have what's called telephone banking, it's what I use to transfer funds from one account to another, it's voice activated as well if you want to use that option.

Eichhörnchen · 03-26-21, 12:57 PM

I don't have enough money to be worried about any of this

But just keep your hands off my nuts

Jimbuna · 03-26-21, 02:31 PM

I've crossed swords with a couple of people that used to specialise in this type of thing and it can be quite an eye opening experience.

Skybird · 03-27-21, 03:53 AM

For sensitive, money-related things, I use randomly choosen combinations of letters, numbers and symbols, not shorter than 20 characters, and 2 way authentication.

With more laidback puposes, I indeed use easy to remember words. Forum accesses for example.

The first i store on usb sticks, i never use any sort of password managers for them and do not save them encrypted or else on hd or online. Paste and copy, after the transaction done the stick gets disconnected physically and goes back to the safe. System gets a cold start afterwards and browser gets cleaned. I do not allow cookies much andstoring of typed in content. I also do such actions only on a second, hardened system running linux. Windows is a lousy choice and keyloggs any entry and phones it home to MS and NSA.

I NEVER would do banking via smartphone again, or shopping. My smartphone holds no personal or sensitive data or files whatever.

Ikeep it simpler with uncritical purposes and very tough and uncomfortable with sensitive purposes.

mapuc · 03-27-21, 12:34 PM

Here you have a four-steps when doing online banking.

First you have to add your social security number, secondly a code, which you have chosen. Third you will be given a code 4 digit and this 4 code digit is equivalent to a 6 digit code.

Markus

em2nought · 03-27-21, 02:53 PM

I'd like to have an account at a bank that has no internet access. I'd consider it a feature. ...But then have a few bank employees get covid and bam no open bank for the next two months. Not so great for safety deposit box access either.

Rockstar · 03-28-21, 12:10 PM

I think that in these days if a bank has a computer it can be breached without anyone having to be in the same room, whether it's connected to the internet or not using passive RF reflector communication

Find the NSA's ANT Catalog, it's amazing the things they can do! (if you dare, they're watching you)

Heck your next door neighbor could conceivably be watching your computer screen in real time using an AirSpy SDR.

mapuc · 03-28-21, 12:22 PM

In the news some hours ago.

In 2019 there was reported 1410 cases of it-fraud or attempt.

In 2020 there was reported 19-something of it-fraud or attempt.

A majority of these it-fraud was against elderly people who has gotten they bank account emptied by some fake bank assistanse, claiming they are from the bank.

Markus

Rockstar · 03-30-21, 10:24 AM

Skybird · 03-30-21, 04:28 PM

Defence against burglars must be physically robust. Not electronically sexy.

My own flat's safety and safe reflect that. Now electronics, but very robust material than cannot be overwhelmed in just 15 minutes or so.

Cameras and lights are overestimated. Professional burglars do not mind, but are prepared and know the reaciton times of police the the city sector.

Many people mistake felt security that is not real, with real substantial security. According businesses win good profits with that.

vienna · 04-04-21, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

I don't have enough money to be worried about any of this

But just keep your hands off my nuts

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Rockstar · 04-04-21, 11:02 AM

03-26-21, 09:19 AM	#1
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Password Strength An eye opener how fast people crack open your bank account.

03-26-21, 10:23 AM	#2
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why I won't let my bank set up an online account. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

03-26-21, 11:00 AM	#3
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I do, but I don't use words found in any dictionary. Just random use of no less than a combination of 12 (more the better) letters, special characters and numbers with a 2FA or two step verification. If your credit/debit cards get compromised its usually because people just aren't paying attention or save them in an online retailer provided wallet. Rather than attack individuals hackers will hack through a retailers security to get your and a lot of others information. I also shop online but never save credit card numbers as retailers try to convince us 'for your convenience'. Should add too, my bank allows me to freeze and unfreeze my card between use. I also set up alerts and receive a text every time a card is used for a purchase by me or anyone, very convenient. That and I only browse using HTTPS only mode helps too. Last edited by Rockstar; 03-26-21 at 05:49 PM.

03-26-21, 12:57 PM	#5
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,371 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I don't have enough money to be worried about any of this But just keep your hands off my nuts __________________

03-26-21, 02:31 PM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I've crossed swords with a couple of people that used to specialise in this type of thing and it can be quite an eye opening experience. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-27-21, 03:53 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	For sensitive, money-related things, I use randomly choosen combinations of letters, numbers and symbols, not shorter than 20 characters, and 2 way authentication. With more laidback puposes, I indeed use easy to remember words. Forum accesses for example. The first i store on usb sticks, i never use any sort of password managers for them and do not save them encrypted or else on hd or online. Paste and copy, after the transaction done the stick gets disconnected physically and goes back to the safe. System gets a cold start afterwards and browser gets cleaned. I do not allow cookies much andstoring of typed in content. I also do such actions only on a second, hardened system running linux. Windows is a lousy choice and keyloggs any entry and phones it home to MS and NSA. I NEVER would do banking via smartphone again, or shopping. My smartphone holds no personal or sensitive data or files whatever. Ikeep it simpler with uncritical purposes and very tough and uncomfortable with sensitive purposes. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-27-21, 12:34 PM	#8
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Here you have a four-steps when doing online banking. First you have to add your social security number, secondly a code, which you have chosen. Third you will be given a code 4 digit and this 4 code digit is equivalent to a 6 digit code. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

03-27-21, 02:53 PM	#9
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd like to have an account at a bank that has no internet access. I'd consider it a feature. ...But then have a few bank employees get covid and bam no open bank for the next two months. Not so great for safety deposit box access either. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

03-28-21, 12:10 PM	#10
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I think that in these days if a bank has a computer it can be breached without anyone having to be in the same room, whether it's connected to the internet or not using passive RF reflector communication Find the NSA's ANT Catalog, it's amazing the things they can do! (if you dare, they're watching you) Heck your next door neighbor could conceivably be watching your computer screen in real time using an AirSpy SDR.

03-28-21, 12:22 PM	#11
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	In the news some hours ago. In 2019 there was reported 1410 cases of it-fraud or attempt. In 2020 there was reported 19-something of it-fraud or attempt. A majority of these it-fraud was against elderly people who has gotten they bank account emptied by some fake bank assistanse, claiming they are from the bank. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

03-30-21, 10:24 AM	#12
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0

03-30-21, 04:28 PM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Defence against burglars must be physically robust. Not electronically sexy. My own flat's safety and safe reflect that. Now electronics, but very robust material than cannot be overwhelmed in just 15 minutes or so. Cameras and lights are overestimated. Professional burglars do not mind, but are prepared and know the reaciton times of police the the city sector. Many people mistake felt security that is not real, with real substantial security. According businesses win good profits with that. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-04-21, 11:02 AM	#15
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0