Concert hall with one of the world's best accoustics...

Skybird · 11-04-16, 07:23 PM

... so they say. And considering that it should have been finished already in 2010, but lasted until now, and that the costs exploded from planned 77 million to 780 million (!!), it better offers itself as one of the best accoustic concert halls indeed:

The Elbe Philharmonic in Hamburg finally has opened.

LINK - Pictures

Enough seats for 2100 visitors, and no seat more than 30m away from the director. A special so-called shark-skin: ten thousand plates on the walls featuring "teeth" and depressions and wave-patterns that should reflect accoustic waves from every place to any other place inside the hall. A visually reflective outside design that mirrors the whole city panorama and sometimes makes the building melt with the sky, making it in parts "invisible", breaking up its silhouette. The concert hall like a bubble "hung up" on strings and stabilised with springs inside the surrounding tower to isolate it from the accoustics of the river Elbe washing against the artificial island, like the inside of a submarine is "hung up" inside the outer hull to accoustically isolate it towards the sea. Extremely difficult architecture and construction, and a most dilletantic planning process in the first years. And stellar costs.

The Berlin Philharmonic is the accoustic reference I have personal experience with, the accoustic indeed is extremely well in there, its phenomenal. But they say it is almost outclassed, compared to that in the new Elbe Philharmonic. Well, thats what they say. I will consider to test it myself and wait for a live concert I could be interested in. By train, its a bit over 2 hours for me from here to Hamburg, and then unknown bus lines in the city.

The costs however imo are horrendous and cannot be justified. Not in these times, not in that city. For the construction, I mean, not for the trip.

I wonder about the static ands safety, however. That has been a big problem, and the constructing companies repeatedly almost quit over that, quoting security concerns, and refused to take responsibility. Building this thing was othign but a nightmare that lasted for over ten years.

The Philharmonic also features one of the biggest organs ever build world-wide.

The accoustics have been calculated by Japanese. Who else. Japanese excel in this kind of stuff. Each of the ten thousand wall panels has been individually calculated - for it place where it is situated, and in its pattern and individual surface structure. There are no two plates that are identical to each other, I saw on TV, all of them are individual. The work done on this alone - accoustics -, is second to none currently. No other concert hall has been as excessively calculated.

The surrounding so-called Hafencity in Hamburg currently is the biggest construction site in Europe. Its a grid of "islands" on which old storehouses were build, separated by channels. The city has high-flying plans for it. And no money. Strange world.

11-04-16, 07:23 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Concert hall with one of the world's best accoustics... ... so they say. And considering that it should have been finished already in 2010, but lasted until now, and that the costs exploded from planned 77 million to 780 million (!!), it better offers itself as one of the best accoustic concert halls indeed: The Elbe Philharmonic in Hamburg finally has opened. LINK - Pictures Enough seats for 2100 visitors, and no seat more than 30m away from the director. A special so-called shark-skin: ten thousand plates on the walls featuring "teeth" and depressions and wave-patterns that should reflect accoustic waves from every place to any other place inside the hall. A visually reflective outside design that mirrors the whole city panorama and sometimes makes the building melt with the sky, making it in parts "invisible", breaking up its silhouette. The concert hall like a bubble "hung up" on strings and stabilised with springs inside the surrounding tower to isolate it from the accoustics of the river Elbe washing against the artificial island, like the inside of a submarine is "hung up" inside the outer hull to accoustically isolate it towards the sea. Extremely difficult architecture and construction, and a most dilletantic planning process in the first years. And stellar costs. The Berlin Philharmonic is the accoustic reference I have personal experience with, the accoustic indeed is extremely well in there, its phenomenal. But they say it is almost outclassed, compared to that in the new Elbe Philharmonic. Well, thats what they say. I will consider to test it myself and wait for a live concert I could be interested in. By train, its a bit over 2 hours for me from here to Hamburg, and then unknown bus lines in the city. The costs however imo are horrendous and cannot be justified. Not in these times, not in that city. For the construction, I mean, not for the trip. I wonder about the static ands safety, however. That has been a big problem, and the constructing companies repeatedly almost quit over that, quoting security concerns, and refused to take responsibility. Building this thing was othign but a nightmare that lasted for over ten years. The Philharmonic also features one of the biggest organs ever build world-wide. The accoustics have been calculated by Japanese. Who else. Japanese excel in this kind of stuff. Each of the ten thousand wall panels has been individually calculated - for it place where it is situated, and in its pattern and individual surface structure. There are no two plates that are identical to each other, I saw on TV, all of them are individual. The work done on this alone - accoustics -, is second to none currently. No other concert hall has been as excessively calculated. The surrounding so-called Hafencity in Hamburg currently is the biggest construction site in Europe. Its a grid of "islands" on which old storehouses were build, separated by channels. The city has high-flying plans for it. And no money. Strange world. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 11-04-16 at 07:48 PM.