Sad tank news.

nikimcbee · 10-28-15, 06:11 PM

Two local guys were killed whilst live firing their M-18 Hellcat.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no....html#comments

Here's the tank that blew up, earlier this year.
https://www.facebook.com/niki.mcbee/...type=3&theater

RIP.

At least they died, doing what they enjoyed doing. Reading some of the comments from the newspaper makes my blood boil. Some people are just morons.

Onkel Neal · 10-29-15, 10:51 AM

Yeah, I read that. Not good.

Aktungbby · 10-29-15, 11:54 AM

"Steve has always been extremely safe," Greenberg said, adding that Preston's tank destroyer was licensed with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to fire live ammunition from the tank.

.http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/02/21/a...ank-destroyer/

Jimbuna · 10-30-15, 07:08 AM

Most tragic Jason.....I've been to a few live firings in the UK and always wondered if the ordnance used was date specific to the era.

nikimcbee · 10-30-15, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Most tragic Jason.....I've been to a few live firings in the UK and always wondered if the ordnance used was date specific to the era.

I think I've met him. He was a friend of the PT-Boat, as he had helped us acquire several of our machine guns. There aren't any details on what happened yet. Someone thought the round had been dropped, but that is just speculation. I'm guessing they made their own homemade ammo and could have been an issue. End of breech life?

Jimbuna · 10-31-15, 10:35 AM

From the article:

Quote:

"It was catastrophic failure in the breech," Greenberg said.

Deschutes County Sheriff Nelson confirmed that theory on Thursday.

"The explosion was a direct result of firing the tank destroyer's gun," Nelson said. "The exact cause of the explosion is still under investigation."

TorpX · 10-31-15, 10:53 PM

I was wondering about where/how one would go about getting ammunition for such a piece. Could they have been using rounds manufactured during the war? If so, maybe age, or storage was an issue.

Anyway, a very tragic accident.

Aktungbby · 11-02-15, 11:25 AM

The vehicle served in World War II for the US and had wound up back in the US after being surplused (71 yr old gun) by the Yugoslavian Army. “It was in a rough shape and Steve did a beautiful job restoring it,” Greenberg said. “He spent years hunting around to buy original parts, knick-knacks like binoculars, flashlights, all the tools.” Large-bore cannons are classified as "destructive devices." To obtain one, pre-approval from the federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives is necessary. A $200 tax stamp is required to possess one. Actually the breech is what must be licensed; and that is what failed 'catastophiclly'-(Greenburg)
Additional approval and tax stamps are required for each cannon shell. Flares, smoke shells and inert shells are exempt. This casing looks original; I'm no expert past 1860's ( Civil War Napoleons-also dangerous) I've seen sites for shells, powder and new projectiles, parts and materials, to build shells. I cannot tell if this is (entirely) original and I hope it's not the fatal round...>

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Sad tank news. Two local guys were killed whilst live firing their M-18 Hellcat. http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no....html#comments Here's the tank that blew up, earlier this year. https://www.facebook.com/niki.mcbee/...type=3&theater RIP. At least they died, doing what they enjoyed doing. Reading some of the comments from the newspaper makes my blood boil. Some people are just morons. __________________

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Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,979 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	"Steve has always been extremely safe," Greenberg said, adding that Preston's tank destroyer was licensed with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to fire live ammunition from the tank. .http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/02/21/a...ank-destroyer/ Last edited by Aktungbby; 10-29-15 at 12:19 PM.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,445 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Most tragic Jason.....I've been to a few live firings in the UK and always wondered if the ordnance used was date specific to the era. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I was wondering about where/how one would go about getting ammunition for such a piece. Could they have been using rounds manufactured during the war? If so, maybe age, or storage was an issue. Anyway, a very tragic accident.

11-02-15, 11:25 AM	#8
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,979 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The vehicle served in World War II for the US and had wound up back in the US after being surplused (71 yr old gun) by the Yugoslavian Army. “It was in a rough shape and Steve did a beautiful job restoring it,” Greenberg said. “He spent years hunting around to buy original parts, knick-knacks like binoculars, flashlights, all the tools.” Large-bore cannons are classified as "destructive devices." To obtain one, pre-approval from the federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives is necessary. A $200 tax stamp is required to possess one. Actually the breech is what must be licensed; and that is what failed 'catastophiclly'-(Greenburg) Additional approval and tax stamps are required for each cannon shell. Flares, smoke shells and inert shells are exempt. This casing looks original; I'm no expert past 1860's ( Civil War Napoleons-also dangerous) I've seen sites for shells, powder and new projectiles, parts and materials, to build shells. I cannot tell if this is (entirely) original and I hope it's not the fatal round...> __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!