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Hey all,
Since last two days made clear that RSD has little to do with the crashes some of us experience when starting new campaigns with silentotto, and the fact that we have been polluting multiple topics with random thoughts and bughunting, I thought it would be a good thing to start a new topic, bundle what we know, and go from there in the hunt for this bug. Spreadsheet we where using with CTD campaings. As we can see right there, the issue is not RSD related. It was present pre-RSD and only gets worse with RSD installed. In order to create a baseline, testing will continue with this baselist: Quote:
I'm strongly tempted to add DynEnv in there as well .. should be compatible non ? Part below this line I will try to keep updated as we gather info, to not let stuff drown. Bring to my attention if I miss something pls. ================================================== ================================================ Conflicts in JSGME for FX Update if added onto 'mike's' list Code:
"Zones.cfg" has already been altered by the "OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2" mod. "Zones.cfg" has already been altered by the "R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.3 by vdr1981" mod. "flag.dat" has already been altered by the "OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2" mod. "UBoot_Sensors.fx" has already been altered by the "NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith" mod. "UBoot_Sensors.GR2" has already been altered by the "Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1" mod. "UBoot_Sensors.GR2" has already been altered by the "NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith" mod. "UBoot_Sensors.sim" has already been altered by the "Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1" mod. "UBoot_Sensors.sim" has already been altered by the "NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith" mod. "UBoot_Sensors.sim" has already been altered by the "IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith" mod. "UBoot_Sensors.sim" has already been altered by the "R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2" mod. "UBoot_Sensors.sim" has already been altered by the "R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible" mod. "NF_Boat_1.GR2" has already been altered by the "OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2" mod. "NF_Boat_1_AO01.dds" has already been altered by the "OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2" mod. "NF_Boat_1_LOD.GR2" has already been altered by the "OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2" mod. "NF_Boat_1_sil.dds" has already been altered by the "OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2" mod. "Sh.sdl" has already been altered by the "OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2" mod. "Sh.sdl" has already been altered by the "RPM Hydrophone v2.2.1" mod. "Sh.sdl" has already been altered by the "SH5Lifeboats by Rongel TDW stoianm v2.1" mod. "Sh.sdl" has already been altered by the "SkyBaron's Bold SFX for SH5 1.0" mod. "alexandria2.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "augusta.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "Big_generic.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "brest.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "calais.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "dieppe.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "lapallice.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "wilhelmshaven.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "gibraltar3.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "Kiel.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "La_Spezia.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "napoli4.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "navrik.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "palermo.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "pantelleria.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "danzig.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "hela.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "small_channel.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "small_generic.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "small_generic_mediu.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "taranto.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "Tobruk.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "Tripoli.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "Valletta.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "venezia.sim" has already been altered by the "TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke" mod. "water_splash.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod. - Problem is present in sober's list. Asked sober for confirmation in his topic. Will add a link to here with updated info. Please confirm sober - Problem is NOT present in minimal modlist, as suggested by gap, and tested by me and as can be seen in the used spreadsheet. - Problem is NOT present in minimal modlist + FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith. - Problem is NOT present in minimal modlist + FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith + R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.3 by vdr1981 From this we can probably deduce a number of things: 1. The difference between the minimal modlist and sober's or mikemike47's list contains the cause for this issue. 2. Given the forlast test scenario, it's unlikely to be caused by FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith itself. 3. Given the last test scenario, and the above listed conflicts in JSGME .. coupled to the fact that not all campaigns where CTD-ing, my guess would be to look in the <location>.sim files for the issue .. changed by TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke .. so I will try to add that next, and see what happens. Last edited by plj; 10-09-13 at 03:12 PM. |
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For reference, the modlists discussed in first topic:
Minimal: Code:
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9 Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches) Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0 OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2 OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2 OH II Minefield map for TDWs Ui Code:
Accurate German Flags sobers game loading tips V8 SH5 DBM Background Video SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2 SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch sobers multi color mod V5 DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters DynEnv v2.9 - 12. Sounds Small_trees_SH5_V1 sobers smoke screen V1 SH5 (DynEnv compatible) sobers water splash anim SH5 sobers best ever fog V22 SH5 sobers base sky mechanics V1 sobers better terrain v3 SH5 sobers waves mod V12 27032013 sobers more trees SH5 SH5_7A_Conning_Fix Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast SH5 Longer Repairs v.1 FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith FX Update 0.0.22 Torpedoes - MagDet range 3m (modified for torpedoes failure patches) AI_sub_crew_1_0_2_TheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches) Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013 Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9 IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith_Patch_1 R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible Depth Charge Range Fix Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0 Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1 MFCMCCDLite Speech fixes and additions (english version) sobers green crew training V4 SH5 TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2 R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v4 by vdr1981 SkyBaron's Leigh Light for SH5 1.1 Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2 RPM Hydrophone v2.2.1 Expanded Navies by Cybermat47 v.1.0.01 smaller flags for Warships 1_0b sobers Lights Cfg V5 SH5 Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3) Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6 Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1 Trevally TDC Help v2 MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2 sobers hud sounds V1 SH5 sobers no footstep sound mod sobers Realistic contrast V6 SH5 EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm sobers deck crew always whispering v2 SH5 gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0 Shadow Improvement ModLR Reworked U-boat Guns (incomplete version) sobers map colors SH5 V1 Code:
Accurate German Flags sobers game loading tips V8 SH5 DBM Background Video Grossdeutscher Rundfunk U-Boat Watch Crew Routine SFX Messervy_s_gramophone_pack1 SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2 SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior Fix clock rear torpedo room VIIA Depth Charge Range Fix Capthelms Audio+SV Touch Ups sobers multi color mod V5 DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod DynEnv v2.9 - No Underwater Impurity Patch DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters DynEnv v2.9 - 9. Sobers Best Ever Tweaks DynEnv v2.9 - 12. Sounds Small_trees_SH5_V1 sobers smoke screen V1 SH5 (DynEnv compatible) sobers water splash anim SH5 sobers best ever fog V22 SH5 sobers base sky mechanics V1 sobers better terrain v3 SH5 sobers waves mod V12 27032013 sobers more trees SH5 Window Lights Redone V1 New Torpedo Door Sound Mix Pascal-sh5-Crew-Uniforms 06.2012 SH5_7A_Conning_Fix SteelViking's Bunker Fixes V1.0 German U-Boat Hydrophone SFX Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith FX Update 0.0.22 Torpedoes - MagDet range 3m (modified for torpedoes failure patches) AI_sub_crew_1_0_2_TheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013 Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013 Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 3_24.06.2013 Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 4_20.07.2013 Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9 Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches) gap - armaments & equipments patch v 0.2 IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith_Patch_1 R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible silentmichal's interior mod 1.2.3 Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0 Flower_Class_Corvette_Pack Soldati Fix NOZAURIO'S SKIN (Standar No Emblem) v-1.1.0 Expanded Navies by Cybermat47 v.1.0.01 smaller flags for Warships 1_0b OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2 OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2 Open Horizons II - Hospital Ship Texture Fix v 1 OH II Minefield map for TDWs Ui RPM Hydrophone v2.2.1 R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.3 by vdr1981 SH5Lifeboats by Rongel TDW stoianm v2.1 SH5Lifeboat Wooden ver. 0.2 SkyBaron's Bold SFX for SH5 1.0 SkyBaron's Leigh Light for SH5 1.1 Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1 MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards MFCMCCDLite Speech fixes and additions (english version) sobers green crew training V4 SH5 TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke sobers Lights Cfg V5 SH5 Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3) Krauters Automated Scripts (v5_0_0 compatible) Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6 Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1 Trevally TDC Help v2 MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2 gap - Sonar Sound Collection v 1.0 for SH5 - Distorted sobers no footstep sound mod sobers Realistic contrast V6 SH5 EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0 sobers deck crew always whispering v2 SH5 sobers hud sounds V1 SH5 Reworked U-boat Guns (incomplete version) sobers Depth of Field (DOF) V6 SH5 sobers map colors SH5 V1 Shadow Improvement ModLR SH5 External Cargo 1.0 TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0 Code:
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9 Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches) Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0 OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2 OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2 OH II Minefield map for TDWs Ui Last edited by plj; 10-09-13 at 09:56 AM. |
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Ok, I'll too try the silentotto campaign start soon, I'm not yet using RSD. What campaigns cause the CTD's, where should I focus, Battle of Mediterranean?
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It seems that the issue is not related to any of the above mods. Sortof unsure how to proceed now. I guess I'll start adding stuff by hand till I CTD again or something :/
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Tnx for your work Plj!Can you first try all campaigns with v5.3?
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Sure, will do. Loading Monsun gruppe .... is this normal ? They audibly crash into eachother for a while intill they find their spots ....
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Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157 [D:\Games\Silent Hunter 5\MODS] Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9 Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches) Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0 OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2 OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2 OH II Minefield map for TDWs Ui |
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Loaded 5.3, tried Battle for the Med. .... NO CTD
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Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157 [D:\Games\Silent Hunter 5\MODS] Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9 Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches) Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0 OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2 OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2 OH II Minefield map for TDWs Ui R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.3 by vdr1981 |
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1st and second post updated .. I'm off for a bit, will check back later for more testing and working replies into the first post.
I'll leave it to the pro's to comment first now .. I can think of 500 logical paths to follow from here, but I rather have someone with more knowledge on the subject comment first. |
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Also, mike, please confirm that removing FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith and corresponding torpedo mod from your list fixes the CTD issue.
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Great job Plj! I'm especially interested in combination Minimum list+ FXU 0.0.22 and Minimum list+ FXU 0.0.22 + R.S.D. v5.3.
Waithing for resoults...
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I'll test the other one later today .. or someone else could. List is in second post. Beware that I renamed a folder to not incorporate a #. |
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