Ships in class

derekb525 · 08-30-13, 10:55 PM

Hey all I very rarely post in the forums but I do lurk quite a bit. I bought Sh4 in 2007 in Kuwait on my way back from my 2nd deployment and have loved the game since then. I currently use TMO 2.5 and RSRDC along with some other smaller mods...

Anyways. my question is, if I sink a ship, will it remain sunk? In Oct. 1943 I just sunk a Kuma Light Cruiser. After I sunk her I went online to find out more about the Kuma class cruiser and found that there are 5 total Kuma class cruisers.

Does this mean that 4 Kuma Cruisers are left in various parts of the Pacific?

magic452 · 08-31-13, 12:41 AM

No. Any ship you sink can and will show up later in the game.
Sinking any ship will not remove it from the list of available ships, if that were the case you'd soon run out of targets or rather the IJN would.

Magic

joefremont · 08-31-13, 01:03 AM

No ships do not remain sunk. New ships are spawned when the convoy/task force starts out and then removed when it reaches its destination according to the games script. And ending the patrol and starting a new one resets everything. In one campaign I sank the two ISE class battleships a total of five times.

derekb525 · 08-31-13, 04:32 PM

Thank you. It is a bit disappointing but I guess the limits of the game require that to happen

Caustic · 08-31-13, 06:30 PM

The IJN would replace some ships during the war and convert Battleships into Aircraft Carriers. Would be a nice feature to see in the game, along with a truely dynamic campaign that is not based on history.

fireftr18 · 08-31-13, 08:04 PM

Welcome aboard derekb525!

Your question has already been answered.
TMO with RSRD should correct the problem of the same ship popping up again and again.
Being a lurker, you may know by now I am the self appointed assigner of jobs at Subsim. Given your special history of selfless service to our nation, I offer you shore leave.

c13Garrison · 09-01-13, 03:08 AM

Well. I see how this boat is run.

When I sign on you post me to the watch 24/7, and then I have the bonus of getting to see others go straight to shore leave!

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition...

in_vino_vomitus · 09-01-13, 03:49 AM

Nooooooooooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!

c13Garrison · 09-02-13, 02:34 AM

Thank you Vino, my faith in humanity is restored.

fireftr18 · 09-02-13, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in_vino_vomitus

Nooooooooooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!

Herr-Berbunch · 09-02-13, 09:53 AM

Sunk boats can be refloated, fixed and sail again. Probably not from the bottom of the Pacific though.

Armistead · 09-02-13, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireftr18

Welcome aboard derekb525!

Your question has already been answered.
TMO with RSRD should correct the problem of the same ship popping up again and again.
Being a lurker, you may know by now I am the self appointed assigner of jobs at Subsim. Given your special history of selfless service to our nation, I offer you shore leave.

Not quite, the same ships pop up again and again after you sink them, but with RSRD, most don't show up after their historical sunk date.

The other issue is chasing damaged ships. Let's say you damage a Yamato, you need to sink it before it leaves your contact zone and the group despawns. You may gain contact with it again only to find it brand new. Still, for some reason this isn't always the case, just most the time

in_vino_vomitus · 09-02-13, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c13Garrison

Thank you Vino, my faith in humanity is restored.

Well - Is it not written that when two or three are gathered together - They shall perform the Parrot Sketch?

It is an Ex-Parrot......

c13Garrison · 09-02-13, 03:04 PM

No its not, its just restin'.

derekb525 · 09-02-13, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

Not quite, the same ships pop up again and again after you sink them, but with RSRD, most don't show up after their historical sunk date.

The other issue is chasing damaged ships. Let's say you damage a Yamato, you need to sink it before it leaves your contact zone and the group despawns. You may gain contact with it again only to find it brand new. Still, for some reason this isn't always the case, just most the time

Going off of this, about how far can I travel away from a crippled ship (let's say she's dead in the water) before the game removes it from the world?

08-30-13, 10:55 PM	#1
derekb525 Seaman Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 Downloads: 253 Uploads: 0	Ships in class Hey all I very rarely post in the forums but I do lurk quite a bit. I bought Sh4 in 2007 in Kuwait on my way back from my 2nd deployment and have loved the game since then. I currently use TMO 2.5 and RSRDC along with some other smaller mods... Anyways. my question is, if I sink a ship, will it remain sunk? In Oct. 1943 I just sunk a Kuma Light Cruiser. After I sunk her I went online to find out more about the Kuma class cruiser and found that there are 5 total Kuma class cruisers. Does this mean that 4 Kuma Cruisers are left in various parts of the Pacific?

08-31-13, 12:41 AM	#2
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	No. Any ship you sink can and will show up later in the game. Sinking any ship will not remove it from the list of available ships, if that were the case you'd soon run out of targets or rather the IJN would. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

08-31-13, 06:30 PM	#5
Caustic Torpedoman Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cape May, New Jersey Posts: 118 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 6	The IJN would replace some ships during the war and convert Battleships into Aircraft Carriers. Would be a nice feature to see in the game, along with a truely dynamic campaign that is not based on history. __________________

08-31-13, 08:04 PM	#6
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard derekb525! Your question has already been answered. TMO with RSRD should correct the problem of the same ship popping up again and again. Being a lurker, you may know by now I am the self appointed assigner of jobs at Subsim. Given your special history of selfless service to our nation, I offer you shore leave. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

09-01-13, 03:49 AM	#8
in_vino_vomitus XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK Posts: 418 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Nooooooooooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!! __________________ Forget death - I'll take dishonour! [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] TMO 2.5 1.5 Optical Targeting Correction 031312 for TMO 2.5 1.5 OTC Realistic Scopes for TMO TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v2_0_SH4 Improved Stock environment v3_TMO&RFB TMO_Alt_engine-sounds TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_performance TMO17_19_different_smoke

08-31-13, 01:03 AM	#3
joefremont Loader Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Near San Francisco Posts: 82 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	No ships do not remain sunk. New ships are spawned when the convoy/task force starts out and then removed when it reaches its destination according to the games script. And ending the patrol and starting a new one resets everything. In one campaign I sank the two ISE class battleships a total of five times.

08-31-13, 04:32 PM	#4
derekb525 Seaman Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 Downloads: 253 Uploads: 0	Thank you. It is a bit disappointing but I guess the limits of the game require that to happen

09-01-13, 03:08 AM	#7
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Well. I see how this boat is run. When I sign on you post me to the watch 24/7, and then I have the bonus of getting to see others go straight to shore leave! I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition...

09-02-13, 02:34 AM	#9
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Thank you Vino, my faith in humanity is restored.

09-02-13, 09:53 AM	#11
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Sunk boats can be refloated, fixed and sail again. Probably not from the bottom of the Pacific though. __________________

09-02-13, 03:04 PM	#14
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	No its not, its just restin'.