Kriegsmarine Documents

Reinhard Hardegen · 03-17-13, 08:05 PM

I have been working on documents for the members of my campaign. These are Kriegsmarine documents copied from the real ones that I has seen while living in the Washington D.C. area for the last 10 years.

These are made with the names of the U-boat Commanders and the dates the items were won, in both down load or printed for framing. Each document is in the original 8"x5.75" (20.32cm x 14.605cm)

Let me know what you think of them?

Feuer Frei! · 03-18-13, 01:37 AM

They look good. Thanks for sharing.
How will these be integrated into the game?

flag4 · 03-18-13, 02:33 AM

They look great.!!
So these can be printed off and framed?
Congratulations.

Could you do one for Englebert Endrass?

Gustav Schiebert · 03-18-13, 05:34 AM

Very nice work, extremely authentic! Made a good job of them

Sailor Steve · 03-18-13, 10:59 AM

Beautiful!

Mittelwaechter · 03-18-13, 12:08 PM

Well done!

Some minor suggestions - for grammatical correctness:

First document:

Im Namen des Führers...

"dem" is doubled - keep the printed one.

Second document:

"Aufgrund" - one word (today "Auf Grund" is possible, but it wasn't in the `40ies) - "due to/on the basis of"

"Ermächtigung" - one word - "authorization"

Fourth document:

"das Ritterkreuz des Eiserenen Kreuzes"

Fifth document:

"das Eichenlaub zum Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes"

The real one - not only the "provisonal ownership certificate" (vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis)

Reinhard Hardegen · 03-18-13, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

Well done!

Some minor suggestions - for grammatical correctness:

First document:

Im Namen des Führers...

"dem" is doubled - keep the printed one.

Second document:

"Aufgrund" - one word (today "Auf Grund" is possible, but it wasn't in the `40ies) - "due to/on the basis of"

"Ermächtigung" - one word - "authorization"

Fourth document:

"das Ritterkreuz des Eiserenen Kreuzes"

Fifth document:

"das Eichenlaub zum Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes"

The real one - not only the "provisonal ownership certificate" (vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis)

First of all thank you all for your comments.

This was the feedback that I needed. It took me a long time to match letters to fonts and borders. Then trying to get the spelling right, like in some "l,s, and f" look almost the same, so getting the spelling right was not so easy.

Once again thanks for the comments, I will make the changes, and repost the changes.

Reinhard Hardegen · 03-18-13, 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=Mittelwaechter;2027151]Well done!

Some minor suggestions - for grammatical correctness:

Second document:

"Aufgrund" - one word (today "Auf Grund" is possible, but it wasn't in the `40ies) - "due to/on the basis of"

"Ermächtigung" - one word - "authorization"

In the Document that I have it shows "Aufgrund", as "Auf Grund" in 1940. All other changes have been made.

Reinhard Hardegen · 03-18-13, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flag4

They look great.!!
So these can be printed off and framed?
Congratulations.

Could you do one for Englebert Endrass?

Do you want game dates, or actual dates for Englebert Endrass?

Mittelwaechter · 03-18-13, 04:59 PM

Indeed "Auf Grund" is obviously the used form those days.

I stand corrected.

After some research I think it changed several times over the years.
Our last - famous - orthography reform allows both now - with a recommendation on "aufgrund".

Edit: as a redemption two Kriegsmarine "Dienstsiegel" (even circular)

Reinhard Hardegen · 03-18-13, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

Indeed "Auf Grund" is obviously the used form those days.

I stand corrected.

After some research I think it changed several times over the years.
Our last - famous - orthography reform allows both now - with a recommendation on "aufgrund".

thanks again for the corrections.

In the last document I posted, although it showed the "Auf Grund" I did notice it shows the wrong rank for Dornitz...

It show him as "Konteradmiral" on 15. Novermber 1940. He was promoted to "Vizedadmiral" on 01. September 1940.

Reinhard Hardegen · 03-18-13, 05:16 PM

Thanks for the two stamps, I see that I need to make mine more rounded. I was trying to make Dontiz's stamp that he used, like in the last document I posted.

I will work on that...

There are no clear images of one, so it took me hours to try to read it and duplicate it.

Gustav Schiebert · 03-18-13, 06:23 PM

These are so good. What did you use to create them? I don't want to rip off and steal your great work, but it would be great to get blank templates of these so I could run certificates off for my DID campaign commanders ... I even have a '40s typewriter (not German unfortunately), which I could use to type in the names ...

Reinhard Hardegen · 03-18-13, 10:44 PM

Just finished the real documents to the knights cross and the knights cross with oak leaves, to go with the "provisonal ownership certificate" (vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis).

flag4 · 03-19-13, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reinhard Hardegen

Do you want game dates, or actual dates for Englebert Endrass?

Actual dates would be brilliant.
Thank you very much

03-17-13, 08:05 PM	#1
Reinhard Hardegen Raiders of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: U-123 (CA7225) Posts: 495 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	Kriegsmarine Documents I have been working on documents for the members of my campaign. These are Kriegsmarine documents copied from the real ones that I has seen while living in the Washington D.C. area for the last 10 years. These are made with the names of the U-boat Commanders and the dates the items were won, in both down load or printed for framing. Each document is in the original 8"x5.75" (20.32cm x 14.605cm) Let me know what you think of them? __________________ A quote from Donitz; “The reason that the American Navy does so well in wartime is that war is chaos, and the Americans practice chaos on a daily basis.” “For the lessons one fails to learn during peacetime, one pays a high price in war.” Last edited by Reinhard Hardegen; 03-18-13 at 11:12 PM.

03-18-13, 01:37 AM	#2
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flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	They look great.!! So these can be printed off and framed? Congratulations. Could you do one for Englebert Endrass? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

03-18-13, 05:34 AM	#4
Gustav Schiebert Sparky Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: AM52 Posts: 151 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Very nice work, extremely authentic! Made a good job of them __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] GWX 3 + OLC Gold + 100% Realism + Commander "Attack! Always attack!"

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03-18-13, 12:08 PM	#6
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Well done! Some minor suggestions - for grammatical correctness: First document: Im Namen des Führers... "dem" is doubled - keep the printed one. Second document: "Aufgrund" - one word (today "Auf Grund" is possible, but it wasn't in the `40ies) - "due to/on the basis of" "Ermächtigung" - one word - "authorization" Fourth document: "das Ritterkreuz des Eiserenen Kreuzes" Fifth document: "das Eichenlaub zum Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes" The real one - not only the "provisonal ownership certificate" (vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis) __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

03-18-13, 03:01 PM	#8
Reinhard Hardegen Raiders of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: U-123 (CA7225) Posts: 495 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=Mittelwaechter;2027151]Well done! Some minor suggestions - for grammatical correctness: Second document: "Aufgrund" - one word (today "Auf Grund" is possible, but it wasn't in the `40ies) - "due to/on the basis of" "Ermächtigung" - one word - "authorization" In the Document that I have it shows "Aufgrund", as "Auf Grund" in 1940. All other changes have been made. __________________ A quote from Donitz; “The reason that the American Navy does so well in wartime is that war is chaos, and the Americans practice chaos on a daily basis.” “For the lessons one fails to learn during peacetime, one pays a high price in war.”

03-18-13, 04:59 PM	#10
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Indeed "Auf Grund" is obviously the used form those days. I stand corrected. After some research I think it changed several times over the years. Our last - famous - orthography reform allows both now - with a recommendation on "aufgrund". Edit: as a redemption two Kriegsmarine "Dienstsiegel" (even circular) __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

03-18-13, 05:16 PM	#12
Reinhard Hardegen Raiders of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: U-123 (CA7225) Posts: 495 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the two stamps, I see that I need to make mine more rounded. I was trying to make Dontiz's stamp that he used, like in the last document I posted. I will work on that... There are no clear images of one, so it took me hours to try to read it and duplicate it. __________________ A quote from Donitz; “The reason that the American Navy does so well in wartime is that war is chaos, and the Americans practice chaos on a daily basis.” “For the lessons one fails to learn during peacetime, one pays a high price in war.”

03-18-13, 06:23 PM	#13
Gustav Schiebert Sparky Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: AM52 Posts: 151 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	These are so good. What did you use to create them? I don't want to rip off and steal your great work, but it would be great to get blank templates of these so I could run certificates off for my DID campaign commanders ... I even have a '40s typewriter (not German unfortunately), which I could use to type in the names ... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] GWX 3 + OLC Gold + 100% Realism + Commander "Attack! Always attack!"

03-18-13, 10:44 PM	#14
Reinhard Hardegen Raiders of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: U-123 (CA7225) Posts: 495 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	Just finished the real documents to the knights cross and the knights cross with oak leaves, to go with the "provisonal ownership certificate" (vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis). __________________ A quote from Donitz; “The reason that the American Navy does so well in wartime is that war is chaos, and the Americans practice chaos on a daily basis.” “For the lessons one fails to learn during peacetime, one pays a high price in war.”