Help in getting my Boat out of the Pens

[Reinhard Hardegen]

I used to be able to start the war in a type IX boat, using GWX 1, but in GWX 3, it will not let me, is there any way to fix this?

I am also using SH3 Commander v3.2.0.203

There were a few IX's out at sea on 19 August, 1939.

Any help is setting this up would be greatful.

[Sailor Steve]

Yep, of the fourteen boats sent on patrol August 19, 1939 to await the start of hostilities four of them were Type VIIa from the Flotilla Saltzwedel (2nd) based at Wilhelmshaven, five of them were Type IX (they were technically not called 'IXa') from the Flotilla Hundius (also incorporated into the 2nd) and the remaining five were Type VIIb based with the Flotilla Wegener (7th) at Kiel.

I too would love to start one career in a IX right at the beginning of the war.

[Jimbuna]

Even when unchecking the historical U-boat availability dates in SH3 Commander your unable to get a Type IX in the 2nd Flotilla until Dec 39.

Here's a quick workaround:

Go into the Data\Cfg file, open up the Basic file, scroll down to the area below and change the value 12 to 8 (in yellow bold for illustration purposes).


[SUBMARINE2]
NrMinOff=3
NrMaxOff=5
NrMinPO=10
NrMaxPO=19
NrMinSeamen=24
NrMaxSeamen=32
NbVersion=4; 5
Version0=0 ; IXB
Name0=IXB
Month0=12 >8
Year0=1939
Version1=1 ; IXC
Name1=IXC
Month1=7
Year1=1941
Version2=2 ; IXC/40
Name2=IXC/40
Month2=10
Year2=1942
Version3=3 ; IXD2
Name3=IXD2
Month3=1
Year3=1943
;Version3=3 ; IXD1
;Name3=IXD1
;Month3=10
;Year3=1941
;Version4=4 ; IXD2
;Name4=IXD2
;Month4=1
;Year4=1943
DaysSpentInBase=28

Save the changes then boot up the game starting a new career commencing August 39 in 2nd flotilla.

Sail around the harbour in your Type VII for a few hours then save the game.

Go to your SH3 folder in C\MyDocs and go to the career save and change the Delta Renown (I changed mine to 50000.00.

Save the changes then boot up the game, go to the upgrade screen (see below) and purchase a Type IX for 9000 renown (leaving you with a healthy 41000).

There is another method of making the Type IX available but that entails opening up a lot more files and running the risk of your installation becoming FUBAR.

[irish1958]

Jim is correct, of course. This work around is far better than others.
As for renown, I like to use it to assess my progress in the game so I don't like to increase the delta renown. Instead I change the basic config file to eliminate the need for renown to obtain all improvements and any other requirements by setting to zero all renown=x in the file. When I choose an improvement to my sub, I stay in base for three months to install it. This is close to the way the NYGM handles the update issue. I don't change the available dates, however.
The only change I make in the delta renown file is to give myself the value of the navel academy renown, as I don't repeat this with new installs or new careers.

[FIREWALL]

I followed your simple instructions Jim and no luck.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I followed your simple instructions Jim and no luck.

Sorry but should have mentioned 'not possible if using SH3 Commander' because you will then be going into the alternative method which involves Flotilla CFG files.

It will work in game mode only as per date and sub type in image posted above.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I followed your simple instructions Jim and no luck.

Were the instructions that simple? Are you supposed to write '12 >8' or are you supposed to change the month from 12 to 8?

[edit] I just went into SH3 Commander's Cfg/U-boat availability folder and changed

[SUBMARINE2]
903_NbVersion=4; 5
903_Version0=0 ; IXB
903_Name0=IXB
903_Month0=8
903_Year0=1939
903_Version1=1 ; IXC
903_Name1=IXC
903_Month1=1
903_Year1=1941
903_Version2=2 ; IXC/40
903_Name2=IXC/40
903_Month2=7
903_Year2=1942
903_Version3=3 ; IXD2
903_Name3=IXD2
903_Month3=6
903_Year3=1945
903_DaysSpentInBase=75

The IXB now shows up in the Flotilla Saltzwedel list for August! I don't know if I can actually get it, because I haven't tested it yet and I haven't changed it in GWX. Test coming up.

[Fish In The Water]

Originally Posted by irish1958

Instead I change the basic config file to eliminate the need for renown to obtain all improvements and any other requirements by setting to zero all renown=x in the file.

Who said there's no such thing as a free lunch?

[irish1958]

Originally Posted by Fish In The Water

Who said there's no such thing as a free lunch?

The way upgrades worked in the second would war was to install them when available on the subs (and other ships) which were available.
The stated method is what happened.
See the readme for NYGM mod for the discussion.