Pope Defends Traditional Families as Spanish Gays Hold 'Kiss-In'

Gerald · 11-07-10, 09:09 AM

BARCELONA, Spain -- Pope Benedict XVI strongly defended traditional families and the rights of the unborn Sunday, directly attacking Spanish laws that allow gay marriage, fast-track divorce and easier abortions as he dedicated Barcelona's iconic church, the Sagrada Familia.

It was the second time in as many days that Benedict had criticized the policies of Spain's Socialist government and called for Europe as a whole to rediscover Christian teachings and apply them to everyday life.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11...ays-hold-kiss/

Note:Published November 07, 2010

GoldenRivet · 11-07-10, 09:38 AM

this is the problem with special interest groups.

they want so badly for everyone to know they are "special" that they will do anything to draw attention to themselves.

a "Kiss-In"?

seriously?

what exactly is the point?

im serious, what - is - the - point?

who cares?

Gerald · 11-07-10, 09:49 AM

In some people's eyes, this could be perceived controversial, not because I have taken note of the substance, (apart from posting) but it's about more than just 'Kiss-In when in some countries it is customary to greet someone with a kiss on hand, and now he goes out in public with the vatican and see probably not take kindly

Tchocky · 11-07-10, 10:11 AM

Great way to protest - gets the point across without violence or negativity.

Gerald · 11-07-10, 10:27 AM

They have learned to hide their feelings

Platapus · 11-07-10, 11:08 AM

This is the problem with special interest groups.

They want so badly for everyone to know they are "special" that they will do anything to draw attention to themselves.

A large ostentatious church? Trying to push their agenda?

Seriously?

What's the point?

Gerald · 11-07-10, 11:13 AM

This "group" wants attention,that's all!

Takeda Shingen · 11-07-10, 11:25 AM

I find it amusing that the Catholic Church likes to pretend that it is still the 12th Century, and that the word of the pope is universally irresistable. What will they do, reissue the Bull of Ad abolendam and a return of the Albigensian Crusade? Silly. The Vatican is just speaking to be heard and to remind Europe that they are still there.

krashkart · 11-07-10, 11:34 AM

Maybe the Pope should just admit that he's kinda turned on by the whole steamy affair.

Betonov · 11-07-10, 11:50 AM

yea sure, sometimes they go over the top with their ''we are gay and proud'' so it borders on distastefull, but I agree with them and their rights. And the level of secularisation achieved by the spanish is something to be proud of. Doing what the pope wants on national levels is idiotism

Skybird · 11-07-10, 12:01 PM

I wish gay activists would stop with their narcisstic self-dramatisation, and the church would stop claiming powers that it does not deserve.

When a pope talks about protection of family values (I'm all for prioritizing families due to their overwhelming importance for the scoial community's future), he is not so much aboit family interests, but powerinterests of the church and the control it wants to have over people, and the status it claims for itself in society. And when gay activists launch another CSD or a Kiss-in or a nude parade, they are not about civil rights and equality, but their very own little climax of the day, and enjoying to be naughty in public without the public being allowed to express disgust. That's such a kick!

The church and it's orders are not holy. And there is no explicit reason for gay "pride", there is no merit in being gay (or hetero - it is like your skin colour: some have this colour, others have that - what's there to be "proud" of?). Both religion and sexual orientation should be left where it belongs - inside people's private chamber.

So will both of you two freaks, gay activists and church alike, stop annoying the vast majorit of us, please!

And btw, dear Mr. Ratzinger, a figure that still condemns the containing of HIV by using condoms, and still is committed to increasing the biggest crime in human history - pushing global population explosion and all the miserable suffering that it causes by the hundreds of millions every year - has not the smallest moral authority himself to lecture others about moral values.

Tchocky · 11-07-10, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

And there is no explicit reason for gay "pride", there is no merit in being gay (or hetero - it is like your skin colour: some have this colour, others have that - what's there to be "proud" of?)

Simple really - gay pride exists because gay shame exists. It's a funny version of Newton's Third Law of Motion

Quote:

And when gay activists launch another CSD or a Kiss-in or a nude parade, they are not about civil rights and equality, but their very own little climax of the day, and enjoying to be naughty in public without the public being allowed to express disgust. That's such a kick!

Agreed on the church not having any authority here, but I don't see why a) the public is "not allowed" to express disgust, or b) why this protest should be seen as disgusting.

Buddahaid · 11-07-10, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

And btw, dear Mr. Ratzinger, a figure that still condemns the containing of HIV by using condoms, and still is committed to increasing the biggest crime in human history - pushing global population explosion and all the miserable suffering that it causes by the hundreds of millions every year - has not the smallest moral authority himself to lecture others about moral values.

The catholic church and all Christianity, is geared toward ensuring your afterlife in heaven, not easing your earthly burdens. That is the reason for self denial and self-inflicted pain amongst certain monks. By suffering on earth you reap the rewards of heaven.

Not my cup of tea, but bearing that in mind allows some understanding of the motives.

GoldenRivet · 11-07-10, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

This is the problem with special interest groups.

They want so badly for everyone to know they are "special" that they will do anything to draw attention to themselves.

A large ostentatious church? Trying to push their agenda?

Seriously?

What's the point?

EXACTLY

nikimcbee · 11-07-10, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

I wish gay activists would stop with their narcisstic self-dramatisation, and the church would stop claiming powers that it does not deserve.

When a pope talks about protection of family values (I'm all for prioritizing families due to their overwhelming importance for the scoial community's future), he is not so much aboit family interests, but powerinterests of the church and the control it wants to have over people, and the status it claims for itself in society. And when gay activists launch another CSD or a Kiss-in or a nude parade, they are not about civil rights and equality, but their very own little climax of the day, and enjoying to be naughty in public without the public being allowed to express disgust. That's such a kick!

The church and it's orders are not holy. And there is no explicit reason for gay "pride", there is no merit in being gay (or hetero - it is like your skin colour: some have this colour, others have that - what's there to be "proud" of?). Both religion and sexual orientation should be left where it belongs - inside people's private chamber.

So will both of you two freaks, gay activists and church alike, stop annoying the vast majorit of us, please!

And btw, dear Mr. Ratzinger, a figure that still condemns the containing of HIV by using condoms, and still is committed to increasing the biggest crime in human history - pushing global population explosion and all the miserable suffering that it causes by the hundreds of millions every year - has not the smallest moral authority himself to lecture others about moral values.

agree 100%

11-07-10, 09:09 AM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Pope Defends Traditional Families as Spanish Gays Hold 'Kiss-In' BARCELONA, Spain -- Pope Benedict XVI strongly defended traditional families and the rights of the unborn Sunday, directly attacking Spanish laws that allow gay marriage, fast-track divorce and easier abortions as he dedicated Barcelona's iconic church, the Sagrada Familia. It was the second time in as many days that Benedict had criticized the policies of Spain's Socialist government and called for Europe as a whole to rediscover Christian teachings and apply them to everyday life. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11...ays-hold-kiss/ Note:Published November 07, 2010 __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	this is the problem with special interest groups. they want so badly for everyone to know they are "special" that they will do anything to draw attention to themselves. a "Kiss-In"? seriously? what exactly is the point? im serious, what - is - the - point? who cares? __________________

11-07-10, 09:49 AM	#3
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	In some people's eyes, this could be perceived controversial, not because I have taken note of the substance, (apart from posting) but it's about more than just 'Kiss-In when in some countries it is customary to greet someone with a kiss on hand, and now he goes out in public with the vatican and see probably not take kindly __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Great way to protest - gets the point across without violence or negativity. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

11-07-10, 10:27 AM	#5
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	They have learned to hide their feelings __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	This is the problem with special interest groups. They want so badly for everyone to know they are "special" that they will do anything to draw attention to themselves. A large ostentatious church? Trying to push their agenda? Seriously? What's the point? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

11-07-10, 11:13 AM	#7
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	This "group" wants attention,that's all! __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-07-10, 11:25 AM	#8
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I find it amusing that the Catholic Church likes to pretend that it is still the 12th Century, and that the word of the pope is universally irresistable. What will they do, reissue the Bull of Ad abolendam and a return of the Albigensian Crusade? Silly. The Vatican is just speaking to be heard and to remind Europe that they are still there.

11-07-10, 11:34 AM	#9
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Maybe the Pope should just admit that he's kinda turned on by the whole steamy affair.

11-07-10, 11:50 AM	#10
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	yea sure, sometimes they go over the top with their ''we are gay and proud'' so it borders on distastefull, but I agree with them and their rights. And the level of secularisation achieved by the spanish is something to be proud of. Doing what the pope wants on national levels is idiotism

11-07-10, 12:01 PM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I wish gay activists would stop with their narcisstic self-dramatisation, and the church would stop claiming powers that it does not deserve. When a pope talks about protection of family values (I'm all for prioritizing families due to their overwhelming importance for the scoial community's future), he is not so much aboit family interests, but powerinterests of the church and the control it wants to have over people, and the status it claims for itself in society. And when gay activists launch another CSD or a Kiss-in or a nude parade, they are not about civil rights and equality, but their very own little climax of the day, and enjoying to be naughty in public without the public being allowed to express disgust. That's such a kick! The church and it's orders are not holy. And there is no explicit reason for gay "pride", there is no merit in being gay (or hetero - it is like your skin colour: some have this colour, others have that - what's there to be "proud" of?). Both religion and sexual orientation should be left where it belongs - inside people's private chamber. So will both of you two freaks, gay activists and church alike, stop annoying the vast majorit of us, please! And btw, dear Mr. Ratzinger, a figure that still condemns the containing of HIV by using condoms, and still is committed to increasing the biggest crime in human history - pushing global population explosion and all the miserable suffering that it causes by the hundreds of millions every year - has not the smallest moral authority himself to lecture others about moral values. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.