Funny encounter

Fauzt · 11-05-10, 08:50 AM

Oh, and is it normal for a sub to dump its waste at Sea?

Herr-Berbunch · 11-05-10, 09:08 AM

Good pics.

Sadly, vessels can dispose of their crap at sea, but there are regulations on what and where.

Good practice for military vessels is to keep and compact waste for disposal on shore - which the RN claim to do, not sure about anybody else.

Edit: Here is the RN way http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/training...on-board-ship/

TLAM Strike · 11-05-10, 09:26 AM

There was a time not too long ago where the Russian Military dumped far worse things at sea.

That's a Project 1783A Vala class YRR ("Radiological Repair Barge") its mission was to store liquid nuclear waste and dump it at sea after she filled up her tanks.

International pressure in the early 1990s put an end to that. Now the ships just sit there filled with nuclear waste.

Funny Greenpeace protests our navy for having potential nuclear disasters while they don't seem to bother much with the Russians and their actual nuclear disasters...

Platapus · 11-05-10, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Funny Greenpeace protests our navy for having potential nuclear disasters while they don't seem to bother much with the Russians and their actual nuclear disasters...

Perhaps because you get your information from the American press and not from research?

http://archive.greenpeace.org/odumpi...s/history.html

http://www1.american.edu/ted/arctic.htm

Greenpeace has been protesting ocean dumping of nuclear waste by the Russians since the 1970's.

Just because the American press only reports greenpeace stuff that affects America or our friends, does not mean that greenpeace is not protesting other countries

ETR3(SS) · 11-05-10, 11:47 AM

Like it was said already it is normal to dump your trash at sea. I don't know how the Russians do it but if the picture is any indication it's no wonder we could track them anywhere.

On my boat we didn't have room for 90 days worth of trash. So it got loaded into a steel can, weighted down, and shot out the bottom of the boat to sink to the bottom of the ocean. However if we knew we were going to be pulling into a port in the next few days we would hold the trash and offload it when we pulled in.

Platapus · 11-05-10, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

So it got loaded into a steel can, weighted down, and shot out the bottom of the boat to sink to the bottom of the ocean.

Was this a special tube only used for trash or was it also used for something else?

ETR3(SS) · 11-05-10, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Was this a special tube only used for trash or was it also used for something else?

Trash only. It was a vertical tube that came out the bottom of the boat.

Platapus · 11-05-10, 03:29 PM

This is interesting.

These types of logistics fascinate me.

Oberon · 11-05-10, 03:49 PM

Don't they compress the trash down into a flat disk?

ETR3(SS) · 11-05-10, 04:09 PM

Trash is separated into two categories, wet and dry. Dry trash gets compacted with a trash compactor. Wet trash does not get compacted as the end result is extremely messy. Wet trash is using plate scrapings from the last meal and doesn't do to well under 3000lbs hydraulics.

Diopos · 11-05-10, 04:14 PM

Can't stop thinking that it would much more disturbing if the trash wasn't from the sub!

Link

.

Fauzt · 11-05-10, 07:08 PM

Thanks for the info. guys, very interresting.

Some of it were bread thrown overboard by the sailors to lure the polar bear closer, but not all was just bread apparently.

Jimbuna · 11-05-10, 07:42 PM

Sometimes it becomea a family occasion

Other times they get annoyed and want to fight the intruder

If your really lucky they'll dance for you

Platapus · 11-05-10, 08:51 PM

Look at the cute bears!!

(Awesome, it appears that not only are the Russians but also the general public is not aware of the CIA's Secret Polar Bear Arctic Infiltration Suit. The collection of information on the subs continues...)

Jimbuna · 11-06-10, 04:49 PM

LOL

11-05-10, 08:50 AM	#1
Fauzt Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 7 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Funny encounter Oh, and is it normal for a sub to dump its waste at Sea?

11-05-10, 09:08 AM	#2
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Good pics. Sadly, vessels can dispose of their crap at sea, but there are regulations on what and where. Good practice for military vessels is to keep and compact waste for disposal on shore - which the RN claim to do, not sure about anybody else. Edit: Here is the RN way http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/training...on-board-ship/ __________________

11-05-10, 09:26 AM	#3
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	There was a time not too long ago where the Russian Military dumped far worse things at sea. That's a Project 1783A Vala class YRR ("Radiological Repair Barge") its mission was to store liquid nuclear waste and dump it at sea after she filled up her tanks. International pressure in the early 1990s put an end to that. Now the ships just sit there filled with nuclear waste. Funny Greenpeace protests our navy for having potential nuclear disasters while they don't seem to bother much with the Russians and their actual nuclear disasters... __________________

11-05-10, 11:47 AM	#5
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Like it was said already it is normal to dump your trash at sea. I don't know how the Russians do it but if the picture is any indication it's no wonder we could track them anywhere. On my boat we didn't have room for 90 days worth of trash. So it got loaded into a steel can, weighted down, and shot out the bottom of the boat to sink to the bottom of the ocean. However if we knew we were going to be pulling into a port in the next few days we would hold the trash and offload it when we pulled in. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

11-05-10, 03:29 PM	#8
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	This is interesting. These types of logistics fascinate me. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

11-05-10, 03:49 PM	#9
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Don't they compress the trash down into a flat disk?

11-05-10, 04:09 PM	#10
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Trash is separated into two categories, wet and dry. Dry trash gets compacted with a trash compactor. Wet trash does not get compacted as the end result is extremely messy. Wet trash is using plate scrapings from the last meal and doesn't do to well under 3000lbs hydraulics. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

11-05-10, 04:14 PM	#11
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Can't stop thinking that it would much more disturbing if the trash wasn't from the sub! Link . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

11-05-10, 07:08 PM	#12
Fauzt Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 7 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info. guys, very interresting. Some of it were bread thrown overboard by the sailors to lure the polar bear closer, but not all was just bread apparently.

11-05-10, 07:42 PM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Sometimes it becomea a family occasion Other times they get annoyed and want to fight the intruder If your really lucky they'll dance for you __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-05-10, 08:51 PM	#14
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Look at the cute bears!! (Awesome, it appears that not only are the Russians but also the general public is not aware of the CIA's Secret Polar Bear Arctic Infiltration Suit. The collection of information on the subs continues...) __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

11-06-10, 04:49 PM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	LOL __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!