RAF to revert to Prop engine aircraft for ground attack role!

TarJak · 01-24-10, 06:16 AM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6997720.ece

=FI=Ghost · 01-24-10, 06:22 AM

Maybe they will bring back Tempests and Typhoons

Letum · 01-24-10, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by =FI=Ghost

Maybe they will bring back Tempests and Typhoons

Oh gawd yes!
Let this be so!

TarJak · 01-24-10, 07:08 AM

Nah they are getting a Brazillian!

Next comes the back sack and crack.

Skybird · 01-24-10, 08:48 AM

I am wondering since long why this has not been considered earlier. Propeller ground attack aircraft are used with great success in South America since long. And the advantages are not only financial, but flight-related as well.

And now I'm off to FS9 to do some low altitude stunts with my SF.260 tactical trainer!

01-24-10, 08:52 AM

Its probably the best idea the MOD has come up with in a long time.

Torplexed · 01-24-10, 09:07 AM

Everything old is new again. Might be time to dust off some of those Vietnam vintage Skyraiders.

Oberon · 01-24-10, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by =FI=Ghost

Maybe they will bring back Tempests and Typhoons

Somewhere in deepest darkest Spain, there is a Dutch man who is frantically writing a letter to the MOD...

SteamWake · 01-24-10, 09:55 AM

I know Embraier's ears just perked up.

XabbaRus · 01-24-10, 09:57 AM

Ah now while I agree that for COIN work props are a much better asset to have than fast jets. Just look at the OV-10 Bronco, IMHO one of the most suited planes to COIN if you want to build a new one, but this has come at the request of the army.

Now he would like to see the RAF reduced to an airline and the navy reduced to coastal protection. He seems to forget how without the navy his army would effectively be able to get anywhere and also that there are more than a few occasions you want a fast jet.

Typhoon has pretty much been paid for. To cut back now would be stupid. They say we always equip ourselves to fight the last war not the current or future war, however I feel in the future we will see a return to state vs state wars as resources dwindle so we could end up with a scenario where we need tosend out a good strike force and have nothing but a few rowing boats and prop planes and an army stuck in blighty.

Also £67 million for a Typhoon but £60 million for an F-35? I think that is just a bit wrong. The JSF is way over price now. Personally if they need to save money scrap the JSF, buy Rafale or Super Hornet and have two seat Typhoons for your Tornado replacement.

As a SDR is coming up each force is trying to set out its stall. I personally fear that the Army will win over at the expense however of the Navy. The RAF this time round can take it. It is easier to reactivate mothballed Typhoons stored in a hangar than it is to restart a ship that has been tied up at dock for 6 months.

=FI=Ghost · 01-24-10, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Somewhere in deepest darkest Spain, there is a Dutch man who is frantically writing a letter to the MOD...

I can only imagine the contents of the letter

Raptor1 · 01-24-10, 09:59 AM

Yeah, bring on the Sopwith Salamander!

August · 01-24-10, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Yeah, bring on the Sopwith Salamander!

On a cost effective basis it most surely wins.

SteamWake · 01-24-10, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by August

On a cost effective basis it most surely wins.

I dunno you ever seen what it costs to restore one of those things?

nikimcbee · 01-24-10, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by =FI=Ghost

Maybe they will bring back Tempests and Typhoons

Nope, it's the Swordfish torp plane!

01-24-10, 06:16 AM	#1
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01-24-10, 06:22 AM	#2
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01-24-10, 08:48 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I am wondering since long why this has not been considered earlier. Propeller ground attack aircraft are used with great success in South America since long. And the advantages are not only financial, but flight-related as well. And now I'm off to FS9 to do some low altitude stunts with my SF.260 tactical trainer! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-24-10, 09:55 AM	#9
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01-24-10, 09:57 AM	#10
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ah now while I agree that for COIN work props are a much better asset to have than fast jets. Just look at the OV-10 Bronco, IMHO one of the most suited planes to COIN if you want to build a new one, but this has come at the request of the army. Now he would like to see the RAF reduced to an airline and the navy reduced to coastal protection. He seems to forget how without the navy his army would effectively be able to get anywhere and also that there are more than a few occasions you want a fast jet. Typhoon has pretty much been paid for. To cut back now would be stupid. They say we always equip ourselves to fight the last war not the current or future war, however I feel in the future we will see a return to state vs state wars as resources dwindle so we could end up with a scenario where we need tosend out a good strike force and have nothing but a few rowing boats and prop planes and an army stuck in blighty. Also £67 million for a Typhoon but £60 million for an F-35? I think that is just a bit wrong. The JSF is way over price now. Personally if they need to save money scrap the JSF, buy Rafale or Super Hornet and have two seat Typhoons for your Tornado replacement. As a SDR is coming up each force is trying to set out its stall. I personally fear that the Army will win over at the expense however of the Navy. The RAF this time round can take it. It is easier to reactivate mothballed Typhoons stored in a hangar than it is to restart a ship that has been tied up at dock for 6 months. __________________

01-24-10, 07:08 AM	#4
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Nah they are getting a Brazillian! Next comes the back sack and crack.

01-24-10, 08:52 AM	#6
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Its probably the best idea the MOD has come up with in a long time.

01-24-10, 09:07 AM	#7
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Everything old is new again. Might be time to dust off some of those Vietnam vintage Skyraiders.

01-24-10, 09:59 AM	#12
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Yeah, bring on the Sopwith Salamander! __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory