Promotion and Medal presentation SH 5

Lord Justice · 10-29-09, 11:38 AM

wouldnt it be great ( captains only ) if there was some kind of short film footage toward ones achievments, lets say 5 second clip of donitz presenting promotions/ lower medals. perhaps adolf on earning knights cross? even if this were in some kind of annimation!! iam sure it beats looking at a medal with words of praise, to be suddenly put in box. after all the love of the game!! sim, inspiration certainly helps during those long patrols, the looking foward to returning to base. Medals/ stripes/ Fraus/ beer/ and gossip with thomsen leaves one of satisfaction. you think??

Sailor Steve · 10-29-09, 11:45 AM

Yes, this would be neat. I never earned any medals or promotions in Aces Of The Deep, but its companion game Red Baron gave film clips of medals being pinned on. Both of those had newspaper clippings celebrating your accomplishments and mourning your loss if you died.

10-29-09, 11:48 AM

Donitz or others, yes. Hitler, No.

Méo · 10-29-09, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sevrin

Donitz or others, yes. Hitler, No.

Agreed, imagine what would think those who already say: ''why german side again''?

10-29-09, 12:45 PM

One thing I had always imagined was that instead of a 'medal box', there be a screen that shows a tunic, with your rank and insignia added as you earn them. Something that can be zoomed in or rotated, and hovering the cursor over a particular award will show a description...

Maybe even have the option to show (some) of the awards as ribbon bars instead of badges.

Kinda hard to explain exactly, but it would show your progression in a different way I think, rather than a wooden box with cut-outs waiting to be filled in. Oh, and the accompanying documents would be a nice addition to the award also.

I'm also wondering how the criteria for awards will be done this time out. It seems they are always 'flaky' in these games.

Lord Justice · 10-29-09, 01:07 PM

nice one guys , some good ideas there, i do so hope the dev team develop one of these ideas, as for playing the other side with my above mentioned idea we all know its for the u boot, but i get the drift, nothing meant by it just saw prien being highly awarded with the higherarchy on his merrits, they even sent prien and his crew in an all expenses paid ski trip not to mention all the other perks one had thrown at them.

LuboS · 12-17-09, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sevrin

One thing I had always imagined was that instead of a 'medal box', there be a screen that shows a tunic, with your rank and insignia added as you earn them. Something that can be zoomed in or rotated, and hovering the cursor over a particular award will show a description...

Maybe even have the option to show (some) of the awards as ribbon bars instead of badges.

something like this (taken from old sim: Luftwaffe Commander)

- LuboS

JScones · 10-30-09, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Para

wouldnt it be great ( captains only ) if there was some kind of short film footage toward ones achievments, lets say 5 second clip of donitz presenting promotions/ lower medals. perhaps adolf on earning knights cross? even if this were in some kind of annimation!! iam sure it beats looking at a medal with words of praise, to be suddenly put in box. after all the love of the game!! sim, inspiration certainly helps during those long patrols, the looking foward to returning to base. Medals/ stripes/ Fraus/ beer/ and gossip with thomsen leaves one of satisfaction. you think??

I agree. I remember Panzer Commander had a static screen. Nothing extravagant, but better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Sevrin

One thing I had always imagined was that instead of a 'medal box', there be a screen that shows a tunic, with your rank and insignia added as you earn them. Something that can be zoomed in or rotated, and hovering the cursor over a particular award will show a description...

Maybe even have the option to show (some) of the awards as ribbon bars instead of badges.

Kinda hard to explain exactly, but it would show your progression in a different way I think, rather than a wooden box with cut-outs waiting to be filled in.

I agree. I actually built a prototype of this in SH3Cmdr, where when the user selects the Crew Manager screen they get a bust of each crewmen with rank/medals/badges/quals mounted. Unfortunately, I couldn't get an artist with free time to help finish it.

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Originally Posted by Sevrin

Oh, and the accompanying documents would be a nice addition to the award also.

Again, another feature that fell by the wayside in SH3Cmdr through lack of help, but one that I'd love to see in SH5.

Dowly · 10-30-09, 04:35 AM

Somekind of drawn pic would be nice, kinda like the screens you see in SH4 for stuff. I dont mind having uncle Adolf presenting awards, maybe draw it so that Adolf is facing away from the "camera", so you dont see his face, but you still know who the man is. Maybe draw him from back and right, so he is standing in an small angle, so that the swastika on the left sleeve wouldnt be visible (but you'd see abit of his left arm and part of the red banner) and only a portion of his face would be visible. I think everyone would be happy with that.

Dowly · 11-01-09, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Again, another feature that fell by the wayside in SH3Cmdr through lack of help, but one that I'd love to see in SH5.

What you mean lack of help? The way I remember it quite a few people helped to search for the documents for you?

JScones · 11-01-09, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

What you mean lack of help? The way I remember it quite a few people helped to search for the documents for you?

Check out http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=131580&page=4 where I was seeking graphics assistance.

Getting the documents was fine, thanks mainly to you for your great high-resolution scans. It all fell apart at the document cleanup stage. I'm useless at graphics. LzZ was very helpful, but recognised his limitations. I asked a few of the "better known" graphic artists whether they could help clean up the files (mainly by PM), as well as in my thread, but didn't get too far. Not their fault of course - RL should override anything games related.

Anyway, you can see where I got up to in the thread linked above, as I pretty much posted SH3Cmdr-generated examples, warts and all, of each certificate.

11-01-09, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Check out http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=131580&page=4 where I was seeking graphics assistance.

Getting the documents was fine, thanks mainly to you for your great high-resolution scans. It all fell apart at the document cleanup stage. I'm useless at graphics. LzZ was very helpful, but recognised his limitations. I asked a few of the "better known" graphic artists whether they could help clean up the files (mainly by PM), as well as in my thread, but didn't get too far. Not their fault of course - RL should override anything games related.

Anyway, you can see where I got up to in the thread linked above, as I pretty much posted SH3Cmdr-generated examples, warts and all, of each certificate.

I'm not great working with graphics, decent with photoshop, etc., but if you decide to do any work in this area for SH5, I have a LOT of source material to scan.

Anything Iron cross related, literally from its inception to post-war I've got covered; every grade imaginable including rare variants, presentation documents, award cases, etc...

Might as well put some of this stuff to use.

JScones · 11-01-09, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sevrin

I'm not great working with graphics, decent with photoshop, etc., but if you decide to do any work in this area for SH5, I have a LOT of source material to scan.

Anything Iron cross related, literally from its inception to post-war I've got covered; every grade imaginable including rare variants, presentation documents, award cases, etc...

Might as well put some of this stuff to use.

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Thanks.

Checkout the thread I linked above that shows where I got up to - it could effortlessly be ported over to SH5 (if needed). To that end, if you have full size scans of any awarded documents, that would be absolutely brilliant.

Dowly · 11-02-09, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Check out http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=131580&page=4 where I was seeking graphics assistance.

Getting the documents was fine, thanks mainly to you for your great high-resolution scans. It all fell apart at the document cleanup stage. I'm useless at graphics. LzZ was very helpful, but recognised his limitations. I asked a few of the "better known" graphic artists whether they could help clean up the files (mainly by PM), as well as in my thread, but didn't get too far. Not their fault of course - RL should override anything games related.

Anyway, you can see where I got up to in the thread linked above, as I pretty much posted SH3Cmdr-generated examples, warts and all, of each certificate.

Ah, right. I forgot the thread at some point, so.

I think those documents would be maybe the best to do again from scratch, easy and quick job and would make it look consistent with any "new" text that SH3cmdr adds i.e. the captain's name.

thruster · 11-04-09, 07:59 AM

what i was thinking is this:
as youre laying on your bunk enduring yet more depthcharging, you look at the wood panelling at the end of your bunk. hanging up is your shore tunic ready for your next return.
- as your rank changes or you are decorated, your uniform tunic is modified to reflect it. simple idea huh?

whilst on the subject; white captains cap. when your POV is from the bunk as you pan the view, you should also get a view of your cap sitting on your desk. caps are very individual and can be stylised, so how about selecting one from a drop list?

personalising the sub. how about adding several pictures on walls or in frames. these should be modifiable to reflect your story. also posters that can be modifiable/personalised to suit too.

the boats flag should be flying on the pole on the wintergarden. if i want to alter it to fly the skull and crossbones then i should. is that too hard?

personalisation engenders ownership to the whole thing. it should be a priority.

10-29-09, 11:38 AM	#1
Lord Justice Previously 4Para Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Britain Posts: 609 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Promotion and Medal presentation SH 5 wouldnt it be great ( captains only ) if there was some kind of short film footage toward ones achievments, lets say 5 second clip of donitz presenting promotions/ lower medals. perhaps adolf on earning knights cross? even if this were in some kind of annimation!! iam sure it beats looking at a medal with words of praise, to be suddenly put in box. after all the love of the game!! sim, inspiration certainly helps during those long patrols, the looking foward to returning to base. Medals/ stripes/ Fraus/ beer/ and gossip with thomsen leaves one of satisfaction. you think??

10-29-09, 11:45 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yes, this would be neat. I never earned any medals or promotions in Aces Of The Deep, but its companion game Red Baron gave film clips of medals being pinned on. Both of those had newspaper clippings celebrating your accomplishments and mourning your loss if you died. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-29-09, 01:07 PM	#6
Lord Justice Previously 4Para Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Britain Posts: 609 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	nice one guys , some good ideas there, i do so hope the dev team develop one of these ideas, as for playing the other side with my above mentioned idea we all know its for the u boot, but i get the drift, nothing meant by it just saw prien being highly awarded with the higherarchy on his merrits, they even sent prien and his crew in an all expenses paid ski trip not to mention all the other perks one had thrown at them. Last edited by Lord Justice; 12-15-09 at 10:14 PM.

10-29-09, 11:48 AM	#3
Sevrin Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Donitz or others, yes. Hitler, No.

10-29-09, 12:45 PM	#5
Sevrin Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	One thing I had always imagined was that instead of a 'medal box', there be a screen that shows a tunic, with your rank and insignia added as you earn them. Something that can be zoomed in or rotated, and hovering the cursor over a particular award will show a description... Maybe even have the option to show (some) of the awards as ribbon bars instead of badges. Kinda hard to explain exactly, but it would show your progression in a different way I think, rather than a wooden box with cut-outs waiting to be filled in. Oh, and the accompanying documents would be a nice addition to the award also. I'm also wondering how the criteria for awards will be done this time out. It seems they are always 'flaky' in these games.

10-30-09, 04:35 AM	#9
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Somekind of drawn pic would be nice, kinda like the screens you see in SH4 for stuff. I dont mind having uncle Adolf presenting awards, maybe draw it so that Adolf is facing away from the "camera", so you dont see his face, but you still know who the man is. Maybe draw him from back and right, so he is standing in an small angle, so that the swastika on the left sleeve wouldnt be visible (but you'd see abit of his left arm and part of the red banner) and only a portion of his face would be visible. I think everyone would be happy with that.

11-04-09, 07:59 AM	#15
thruster Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 139 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	what i was thinking is this: as youre laying on your bunk enduring yet more depthcharging, you look at the wood panelling at the end of your bunk. hanging up is your shore tunic ready for your next return. - as your rank changes or you are decorated, your uniform tunic is modified to reflect it. simple idea huh? whilst on the subject; white captains cap. when your POV is from the bunk as you pan the view, you should also get a view of your cap sitting on your desk. caps are very individual and can be stylised, so how about selecting one from a drop list? personalising the sub. how about adding several pictures on walls or in frames. these should be modifiable to reflect your story. also posters that can be modifiable/personalised to suit too. the boats flag should be flying on the pole on the wintergarden. if i want to alter it to fly the skull and crossbones then i should. is that too hard? personalisation engenders ownership to the whole thing. it should be a priority.