Alimony

[Onkel Neal]

Is there anything crazier than alimony in this day and time? I thought that women had equal rights, etc. What's the status of alimony, are there still state that have this? It's typically for men aying woemn, right? And how do they justify it? Anyone paying this kind of legal extortion?

Anyone receiving it?

[antikristuseke]

I think when my parents got divorced my father payed alimony, though he was not legally forced to. Not anymore though since me and my siblings are all over 18.

Edit: wait, no, that was child support.

[ETR3(SS)]

Look no farther than the State of Washington. When I was stationed there, and still living there until the middle of last year, the worst thing you could be in that state was be a man. Routinely I would hear "don't get married or divorced in this state!" form fellow service members and civilians living in the area. It wasn't unusual for a couple with children that were getting divorced for the women to "automatically" get awarded custody and alimony. If there's anybody from Western Washington on the forums they should be able to back up what I've said.

And on the subject of "equality", I must say that it has a very tarnished image in my eyes. Personally I do not approve of women in the military based on the fact that they are not held to the same standards as their male counterparts. It is my (probably biased) opinion that "equal pay for equal work" does not exist, and that our country places too much time into being PC than looking at the qualifications of employees or prospective employees. Case in point the New Haven firefighters.

[FIREWALL]

In California your EX gets half, her lawyer gets half and, you get the shaft.

[Zachstar]

This is one of the reasons I will likely never get wed. Sadly it has almost become a buisness to wed someone due to their wealth and get a convinent divorce. And I don't mean just women. Men and even same sex people do it.

[AVGWarhawk]

My sister just got divorced in the great state of TX. She gets alimony and child support. Child support is not enough IMO. Kids are expensive and you know that aspect of it Neal. Homes and the necessities are expensive also. So yes, alimony is something that I can see as not crasy. At least until the are all over 18. At that point all alimony and support should stop. Over the years her husband had pissed away hundreds of thousand of dollars that wase hers. She had a million dollar home in Houston TX. This a-hole did nothing for years. Had nervous breakdowns all the time. His resume shows he was an 'entrepenuer'. That is a nice way of saying he was a slouch. Now he asked for the divorce and is busy dating an illegals.

IMO, alimony is fine to a point and should stop after the children reach 18 years of age. After all, child support stops at that age.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

This is one of the reasons I will likely never get wed. Sadly it has almost become a buisness to wed someone due to their wealth and get a convinent divorce. And I don't mean just women. Men and even same sex people do it.

Pre-nuptuals brother

[Jimbuna]

My friend recently got divorced from his wife. He told me, "Marriage is like a prison."

I thought to myself, "That’s not true. At least in prison you get to have anal sex."

[ETR3(SS)]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

My sister just got divorced in the great state of TX. She gets alimony and child support. Child support is not enough IMO. Kids are expensive and you know that aspect of it Neal. Homes and the necessities are expensive also. So yes, alimony is something that I can see as not crasy. At least until the are all over 18. At that point all alimony and support should stop. Over the years her husband had pissed away hundreds of thousand of dollars that wase hers. She had a million dollar home in Houston TX. This a-hole did nothing for years. Had nervous breakdowns all the time. His resume shows he was an 'entrepenuer'. That is a nice way of saying he was a slouch. Now he asked for the divorce and is busy dating an illegals.

IMO, alimony is fine to a point and should stop after the children reach 18 years of age. After all, child support stops at that age.

Alimony has nothing to do with children at all. That is what child support is there for. If you believe that child support does not cover it anymore, than child support rates should go up. Awarding alimony to the wife doesn't solve the problem as legally that money is for her and not the children.

Alimony should be abolished in this country as we are an "equal opportunity" nation. I would refuse (in a legal manner of course) to pay alimony to an ex-wife because she doesn't want to go out and get a job. THAT is straight sexism.

[Onkel Neal]

We certainly disagree here. Alimony is an antiquated concept. Today any woman should be required to support themselves, if they get a divorce. Just like men.


And child support is not far behind. I agree both parents should provide support for the children, but until age 15, children are not that expensive. In Texas, CS for one child is 20% of your income. And keep in mind, that 20% is supposed to be the non-custodial parent's portion. So, in effect, the child costs 20% from the mother too? Ha, that's one expensive kid!

And the arguement that CS should go toward providing a room and utilities for child at the mom's dwelling...so what happens when the child stays with the father? The child sleeps on the porch? No, the father has to provide a room, bed, clothes, utilities, food, entertainment for the child too, as well as hand over 20% of his income to his ex-wife, who is free to spend it any way she wishes. I'm all for supporting one's children, but the current system is wrong and biased (mothers get custody automatically). A married father gets full decision power over how much money to spend on his kids, the divorced father is expected to throw lots of money to his ex, in hopes the child will be provided for.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

My sister just got divorced in the great state of TX. She gets alimony and child support. Child support is not enough IMO. Kids are expensive and you know that aspect of it Neal. Homes and the necessities are expensive also. So yes, alimony is something that I can see as not crasy. At least until the are all over 18. At that point all alimony and support should stop. Over the years her husband had pissed away hundreds of thousand of dollars that wase hers. She had a million dollar home in Houston TX. This a-hole did nothing for years. Had nervous breakdowns all the time. His resume shows he was an 'entrepenuer'. That is a nice way of saying he was a slouch. Now he asked for the divorce and is busy dating an illegals.

IMO, alimony is fine to a point and should stop after the children reach 18 years of age. After all, child support stops at that age.

[AVGWarhawk]

I understand your view of antiquated but with children working the 9-5 for the parent while the children are in school is fine however there is after care and transportation for the kids. School lets out at 3 pm. What are you to do with your 8 year old. Latch key kid? No, that can not work at that age. Dad does not worry about kids when his job is concerned. Also, are you to take the kids who lived in a nice home and then have them dumped in some place of squalar because that is all mom can afford? Then there is the emotional toll of the kids that mom has to deal with. My two nieces are seeing a specialist because of this divorce. Mom gets the bill and rest of it. Meanwhile dad is in NJ with a new place to live and an illegal screw doll. He just purchased $7000.00 for furniture. Mom, meanwhile is cleaing soiled undergarments and cleaning up puke from a sick child. Also, since dad is paying CS he gets the write off on taxes, no? In all reality dad can go deliver pizza and pay his percentage on that as CS. Also, if dad has such an issue with it, get full custody of the kids. What can I say? I know more deadbeat dads the ones that pay like ordered.

I agree though, mom does get to spend the money as she sees fit. It is just the way the system is and needs some changes for sure but in hindsight, dad can do what he wants and when he wants. No one to look after. Each case needs to be looked at an not cookie cutter law. If mom is the issue, infidelity, spending wildly, etc. Then she takes it in wallet and not the husband. Again, though, the law is to much cookie cuter and it get the same old stamp all divorces cases get.

[Dan D]

Neal,

if "she" should ever dare to garnish your rights concerning your internet domain "subsim.com" because of support payment arrears of yours, this would mean, that I have to contact some of my friends to send some field workers of the Albanian Mafia to convince her that this was a very, very bad idea.

[AVGWarhawk]

Oh, I forgot, I work with a gentleman that got full custody of his kids. He asked for zero child support so she has no say in what the kids do. She gets a weekend here and there with the kids. For the most part she is free and clear to do what she want when she wants. Dads do have recourse and can get custody. It is all about how much you can spend on a lawyer. Of course, the mom has to spend for her lawyer also. Only the lawyers win in the end. My sister lawyer was $25,000.00 and the friggin case ain't over yet. He asked for another $10,000.00. Funny how the lawyers do that when the have the discovery session. It seems all they discover is your net worth.

[GoldenRivet]

I have been happily married for 7 years now.

My wife and I got lucky when we found one another.

however!!!

you single men need to stay unmarried. I dont recommend marriage for anyone!

the wife controls 50% of the money and 100% of the pu$$y... if you guys get a divorce... she controls 100% of both.

a pretty unfair arrangement if you ask me.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I have been happily married for 7 years now.

My wife and I got lucky when we found one another.

however!!!

you single men need to stay unmarried.

the wife controls 50% of the money and 100% of the pu$$y... if you guys get a divorce... she controls 100% of both.

a pretty unfair arrangement if you ask me.

Not true, marital property and finances are 50/50. As far as the crotch controlling...there is plenty of crotch willing to do the deed. She ain't the only one a sausage wallet