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Old 09-25-09, 02:10 PM   #1
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Who's got which photo camera and why

Okay. So I've been shooting the entire 2009 Subsim meet with my Sony K850i phone, from which the camera is the only part that still works nicely, but I've since then decided that I'm kind of ready to move on to the next level of photography.

There's only one problem: where to start and how on earth do I choose the right camera for my needs.

So I figured I'd ask the lot of you to share with me, and whomever else might be in the same position I'm in, what camera you use, the pros and cons about it and, if you want to answer that, what it roughly costs so that I can take all that info and project it onto my needs and at least end up with a place to start looking.

Obviously I have done some looking around already and will be taking a digital reflex camera I borrowed from work with me for the weekend just to see if that works for me but the possibilities are endless and choosing one is just a harsh task.

Searching on these forums have resulted in a lot of 'external camera' and 'photo recon' threads but not a real life photo camera thread as such so I figured I'd start one. You know, just for the experience.
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Old 09-25-09, 04:14 PM   #2
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I attended the SS Meet in Texas last year and took my Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ5.

It's a nice pocket size compact and packs a lot of quality for a reasonable price.

Here is the TZ7, its successor:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Pa...x_DMC_TZ7_ZS3/
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I got a few cameras, mainly film ones and one digital! Part collection, part because I like to take pictures and develop (B&W)! One starts with one camera and lens, then one wants to try out a better body because of this or that. Lens is more complicated, faster ones, telephotos ones, zoom, branch, better optics, famous branches etc!

Use a Leica!

The new panasonics are quite good and versatile. The new GF-1 or the G1 (with adapter, one can use several lens). Pentax has the new Kx, with K lens mount thread, one can use the all the old lenses!
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For mine Canon Ixus is one of the best pocket sized compact cameras on the market. I took one to Houston and got some great shots. For more serious work get an SLR any of Nikon, Canon or Sony are good, but it is the lenses that make them so don't skimp on getting cheap ones if you can afford the better quality ones.
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Old 09-26-09, 02:51 PM   #5
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Thank you guys, this is a start.
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Old 09-26-09, 03:46 PM   #6
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WEll I have a Fuji Finepix S5600, it is about 2 years old now but takes great pictures and I still use it.

You can get the successor cameras at a good price. They are in between compact digital cameras and full DSLR cameras, all the convenience of a compact but you have all the control of a DSLR, ie exposure, aperture etc...you just can't change the lenses. The later versions of the Finepix the zoom is actually a zoom ring like a zoom lense so you can zoom in very quickly. Also you can select manual focus but on mine it is cumbersome.

The other camera is Nikon P90 which again is a step down from a full DSLR 12 MP all the functionality of a DSLR, just can't change the lenses.

Next is a Nikon D90 that my dad has. That is a DSLR and not cheap but a very good. It's about £800 so probably $800 US.

If you want to get into photography a DSLR is the way to do.

Personally thought I'd go for A Nikon P90 ro Finepix S5XXX series as they are just below an SLR in what you can do but superior to most compact, in your pocket cameras.
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Okay. So I've been shooting the entire 2009 Subsim meet with my Sony K850i phone, from which the camera is the only part that still works nicely, but I've since then decided that I'm kind of ready to move on to the next level of photography.

There's only one problem: where to start and how on earth do I choose the right camera for my needs.

So I figured I'd ask the lot of you to share with me, and whomever else might be in the same position I'm in, what camera you use, the pros and cons about it and, if you want to answer that, what it roughly costs so that I can take all that info and project it onto my needs and at least end up with a place to start looking.

Obviously I have done some looking around already and will be taking a digital reflex camera I borrowed from work with me for the weekend just to see if that works for me but the possibilities are endless and choosing one is just a harsh task.

Searching on these forums have resulted in a lot of 'external camera' and 'photo recon' threads but not a real life photo camera thread as such so I figured I'd start one. You know, just for the experience.
Hi Von

I have been taking pictures since I was 11 years old and have been using P&S as well as SLRs & DSLRs.

A few points:
1) Using a DSLR instead of a P&S does not automaticly give you better pictures - It takes months of use before you can understand how to take advantage of the greater range of posibillities a DSLR gives you.

2) Make it clear what you want to use it for. Do you really need a DSLR? Sure the DSLR will give you more options, possibilities and image quality, but they cost more and are much bigger to carry around.
Canon has 2 smaller series of non-DSLRs: Ixus and Powershow. Ixus is small and easy. Powershot gives you more control.

3) If you buy a DSRL, you also commit to a system of lenses. Lenses last much longer that the camera body itself, so choose the manufactor based primarily on the lenses. Rule of thumb: use 1/2 - 2/3 of your budget on the lens.

Checkout my portfolio:
http://jonathanjorgensen.daportfolio.com/
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Old 09-27-09, 05:26 AM   #8
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I'd got for a Sub DSLR like the Nikon P90 or one of teh Fujie Finepix Zoom ranges.

They are bulkier than most point and shoot as they look more like a DSLR.

That is just my choice though as I like the better control I have over the camera than most point and shoots. Also they have better zoom ranges x10 or even x 24 with the P90.
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Thanks for the hints and tips guys, I'm absorbing all this info and try and get clear what it is that I want. I don't really mind about the size of the camera itself, that's not a big, or even non-issue for me. I've decided that I want to come home with better pictures now so when I'm out to take them I'll just pack accordingly. Easy.

What I do care about is being able to shoot fast moving targets like racing cars blasting by for example. The biggest issue I've had with the smaller cams is that there usually was a significant amount of time between the moment where I take the shot, pull the trigger so to speak, and the actual recording of the picture. Not to mention the time it then takes to safe that picture so I can move on to the next.

This past weekend, for example, I was at the 6 hours of Spa Francorchamps where, among other absolutely gorgeous cars, the classic prototypes from the late 60's and 70's were doing their thing and it proved hard enough a task to catch them on my default camera. But I had also borrowed an standard Canon EOS 400D from work and using that camera I was so much abler to actually getting the moving cars on film.

Like John said I probably have a long way to go to get from the 'shooting snapshots level' to the taking photographs one, but the ease of how I could use the speed at which I could take the shots alone would have been well worth the bigger investment.

Obviously I don't know (yet, as it's clear I have lots of reading to do) how photo saving time compares to the compact camera of course but that would be a big factor to consider for me.
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Thanks for the hints and tips guys, I'm absorbing all this info and try and get clear what it is that I want. I don't really mind about the size of the camera itself, that's not a big, or even non-issue for me. I've decided that I want to come home with better pictures now so when I'm out to take them I'll just pack accordingly. Easy.

What I do care about is being able to shoot fast moving targets like racing cars blasting by for example. The biggest issue I've had with the smaller cams is that there usually was a significant amount of time between the moment where I take the shot, pull the trigger so to speak, and the actual recording of the picture. Not to mention the time it then takes to safe that picture so I can move on to the next.

This past weekend, for example, I was at the 6 hours of Spa Francorchamps where, among other absolutely gorgeous cars, the classic prototypes from the late 60's and 70's were doing their thing and it proved hard enough a task to catch them on my default camera. But I had also borrowed an standard Canon EOS 400D from work and using that camera I was so much abler to actually getting the moving cars on film.

Like John said I probably have a long way to go to get from the 'shooting snapshots level' to the taking photographs one, but the ease of how I could use the speed at which I could take the shots alone would have been well worth the bigger investment.

Obviously I don't know (yet, as it's clear I have lots of reading to do) how photo saving time compares to the compact camera of course but that would be a big factor to consider for me.
For fast moving objects you will need a DSLR. I have a Canon 450D and am very happy with it.
Do you need fast continues shooting? If you need to take 10 shots continuesly in a row in RAW format, I dont think the XXXD series is fast enough. You may want to look into the 50D
Added to this you need a fast lens. Look at the Sigma lenses with F2.8
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Old 09-29-09, 01:33 PM   #11
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The 450D has popped up more than once now since I've started looking around more seriously. Seems that basically does everything I think I'll be needing and most likely a little bit more. I do need to look into this whole lenses business though, that's new territory for me.
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Check out www.dpreview.com

Its has tons of reviews and a forum where the questions have been discussed several times
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Thanks!

Note to self: do more reading!
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