The GDR's orignal document plan for WWIII

Skybird · 10-08-09, 02:17 PM

http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/...ad.php?t=13776

The eSim forum has an interesting thread currently. It gives the link to the copied original documents of the Eastgerman War Operation plan, featuring a PDF with 238 pages, original documents, listing all intel they had on NATO forces expected to become active in case of a war, and their own operational responses. The level of detail is breathtaking, down to size and weight limits of roads and logistic details of trasportation of units.

they are currently asking for translators. Which means you can make use of this document only if you can understand German.

Again, this is the Staatsicherheit's orignal document describing the detailed war plan of the GDR army in case of a war.

Some reaction in the thread from American veterans indicate they find the ammount of knowledge the StaSi had about their units stunning, and exceeding their own knowledge at the time they served.

10-08-09, 02:20 PM

Can you post an english version without having to join another forum?

Thanx

Oberon · 10-08-09, 02:44 PM

Wow...that's some find.

Wish I knew more German so I could help translate, will be a fascinating document to read once done.

Skybird · 10-08-09, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo

Can you post an english version without having to join another forum?

Thanx

They are looking for a translator.

Thomen · 10-08-09, 03:22 PM

Another link to the German (sorry) version:

http://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/collectio...n&id=17214&nav

It doesn't look like there is translation as of yet.

But good find, none the less, SB.

Platapus · 10-08-09, 03:31 PM

I thought the GDR's plan for WWIII was to fire off one round and then watch the big flash.

Skybird · 10-08-09, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomen

Another link to the German (sorry) version:

http://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/collectio...n&id=17214&nav

It doesn't look like there is translation as of yet.

But good find, none the less, SB.

No, not my merits, I just read about it in the original thread over there.

Somebody else found it, the author of that thread.

Shearwater · 10-08-09, 04:08 PM

If it's not too long, I could do a translation. I'm not registered, so I couldn't have a look at it.

Thomen · 10-08-09, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shearwater

How long is it? If it's not too long, I could do a translation.

238 pages.. hehe

10-08-09, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I thought the GDR's plan for WWIII was to fire off one round and then watch the big flash.

No. Like today the plan was for the US to do all the heavy lifting. Then criticize after the fact. Some things never change.

Shearwater · 10-08-09, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomen

238 pages.. hehe

I could have guessed it. The new semester starts at Monday - not to say that I'm already in arrears with my other stuff

Depends on a) how many people want to see it, b) how long they can wait and c) how important it is in the first (or here: third) place. I'm somewhat interested myself, though.

EDIT: Following the recent trend, we could set up yet another poll

Thomen · 10-08-09, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

No. Like today the plan was for the US to do all the heavy lifting. Then criticize after the fact. Some things never change.

Ya sure..

Educate yourself, please, what the GDR means.

It would probably call for the USSR to do the heavy lifting.

Skybird · 10-08-09, 04:28 PM

Ooops, Shearwater just brings to my attention that the author set up the file via eSim forum software, and so you need to be registered to download it indeed.

Use Thomen's link then.

Platapus · 10-08-09, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

No. Like today the plan was for the US to do all the heavy lifting. Then criticize after the fact. Some things never change.

I don't think the GDR's WWIII plan was to allow the US to do the heavy lifting. Perhaps that was the FRD's plan but not the GDR's.

In the cold war:

FRD = good guys
GDR = bad guys

Shearwater · 10-08-09, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomen

It would probably call for the USSR to do the heavy lifting.

Third possibility (speaking with Tom Clancy): Leave the heavy lifting to West Germany's Landwehr

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10-08-09, 02:17 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The GDR's orignal document plan for WWIII http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/...ad.php?t=13776 The eSim forum has an interesting thread currently. It gives the link to the copied original documents of the Eastgerman War Operation plan, featuring a PDF with 238 pages, original documents, listing all intel they had on NATO forces expected to become active in case of a war, and their own operational responses. The level of detail is breathtaking, down to size and weight limits of roads and logistic details of trasportation of units. they are currently asking for translators. Which means you can make use of this document only if you can understand German. Again, this is the Staatsicherheit's orignal document describing the detailed war plan of the GDR army in case of a war. Some reaction in the thread from American veterans indicate they find the ammount of knowledge the StaSi had about their units stunning, and exceeding their own knowledge at the time they served. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-08-09, 03:31 PM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I thought the GDR's plan for WWIII was to fire off one round and then watch the big flash. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

10-08-09, 04:28 PM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Ooops, Shearwater just brings to my attention that the author set up the file via eSim forum software, and so you need to be registered to download it indeed. Use Thomen's link then. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-08-09, 02:20 PM	#2
CastleBravo Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Can you post an english version without having to join another forum? Thanx

10-08-09, 02:44 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Wow...that's some find. Wish I knew more German so I could help translate, will be a fascinating document to read once done.

10-08-09, 03:22 PM	#5
Thomen Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Another link to the German (sorry) version: http://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/collectio...n&id=17214&nav It doesn't look like there is translation as of yet. But good find, none the less, SB.

10-08-09, 04:08 PM	#8
Shearwater Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: SUBSIM Radio Room (kinda obvious, isn't it) Posts: 542 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	If it's not too long, I could do a translation. I'm not registered, so I couldn't have a look at it.