What is the point of 1939?

casey.phobic · 02-19-09, 04:37 PM

Ahoy,

I suppose I may be jumping the gun in a way, but is the point of 1939 to go out to sea and wait for war to be declared?

I'm pretty new to this game (been playing only since October), and i just reinstalled with GWX 3.0. I started the earliest career I could since I'm still very n00bish and I want to have the least amount of resistance while I hone my skills. I started a career with that Flotilla that begins near Finland. I set out and just started sinking Polish merchants and whatever other Polish ships I could find. I suppose they were still neutral at this point because when i returned to base, there were German ships firing on me, coastal artillery firing on me etc. I just dove for periscope depth and they lost me. I continued to hear shells exploding and such so I went to the bird's eye view. Oh MAN was it chaos! German ships sinking German ships..every man for himself! It was pretty fun to watch, but it clearly is telling me that I did something wrong.

Can any of you give me some advice here?

On a side note, I keep getting a patrol assignment for BF10. I'm sure you all know that BF10 does not exist. I figured that maybe they're meaning for me to just patrol anywhere in BF sector for 24 hours, but that doesn't seem the case. I did a search in the forums and found that GWX won't give you any renown for patrolling an assigned sector anyway, but it looks like the BF10 thing is sort of a mystery to a lot of sailors here.

Salut!

bgey · 02-19-09, 04:51 PM

Quoting the GWX manual out of laziness:

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Campaign Start
The stock Silent Hunter III campaign began on September 1, 1939. Historically, U-boats began moving to their wartime patrol areas starting around August 15, 1939, so GWX has advanced the start of the campaign to August 1, 1939 to allow players to reach their historical patrol areas before the war begins.
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Most people do a short (4 or 5 days) shakedown patrol. Go sight seeing.

Oh, btw, be sure to take a look at that GWX manual. It has tons of useful and interesting information!

Benny

mookiemookie · 02-19-09, 04:56 PM

The point is to get out and have a shakedown cruise. Get a patrol's worth of experience for your crew and earn a qualification for one of them.

TarJak · 02-19-09, 04:59 PM

After your first patrol you should begin your next patrol with enough time to get into your patrol position before England declares war on Germany.

gord96 · 02-19-09, 05:45 PM

There is 4 months of war in 1939. After Sept 1/39 the war is on and that is probably the best time to learn the game as most merchants are unarmed, many travel alone and their is few escorts.

Sailor Steve · 02-19-09, 05:54 PM

The game originally started on September 1, the first day of the war. Many of us pointed out that a bunch of u-boats were assigned to be on station that day, so departed two weeks earlier. The game can be modified to allow a starting date of the first of any month of the war (stock game only allows for Sept '39, or the first day of 1940, '41, '42 or '43) but it can't be made to start you on August 19, so GWX3 does the best it can with what it was given.

So, you can select Sept 1 as your starting date if you want, or August as some of us do.

A Very Super Market · 02-19-09, 06:55 PM

Also, some first patrols would not give you tonnage, so the shakedown will eiliminate that possibility.

casey.phobic · 02-19-09, 07:11 PM

Thanks mates,

I'll have to start a new career to undo my sole responsibility for the beginning of international war.

Chad · 02-20-09, 12:16 AM

Okay, here's a dumb question.

I've got the latest GWX and SH3 commander, however, when i start a career in Sh3 commander the earliest I can start is 9-1939

bigboywooly · 02-20-09, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad

Okay, here's a dumb question.

I've got the latest GWX and SH3 commander, however, when i start a career in Sh3 commander the earliest I can start is 9-1939

Do you have the GWX 3 cfgs for SH3commander ??
Doesnt sound like you do

JScones · 02-20-09, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad

Okay, here's a dumb question.

I've got the latest GWX and SH3 commander, however, when i start a career in Sh3 commander the earliest I can start is 9-1939

Do you have the GWX 3 cfgs for SH3commander ??
Doesnt sound like you do

More like he doesn't have GWX installed correctly - as you know BBW, the flotilla start dates are defined in Flotilla.cfg, not in *any* files used by SH3Cmdr.

@Sailor Steve, do you ever get a sense of continued de ja vu when you post? :rotfl:

mmm...Dönitz · 02-20-09, 07:42 AM

I'll be starting a career soon, and I plan to use the first shakedown cruise to sort out my crew management and do some practise torpedo runs on neutral ships - just to get some experience of doing the Naval Academy stuff well away from home waters.

I plan to be in it for the long term

Long enough to turn into a drunkard who yells "ALARM" whenever the phone rings

Sailor Steve · 02-20-09, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

@Sailor Steve, do you ever get a sense of continued de ja vu when you post? :rotfl:

Of course there are only so many questions that can be asked, and always new people to ask them, so it's always cool.

casey.phobic · 02-20-09, 02:02 PM

Yeah, especially if you've installed GWX 3.0 AND you're new. I can understand, though. I've flown IL-2 for years and years and by now the sim is about 6 years old. Over that time so much has been learned by the people who began on day one, it would really be impossible for any newcomer to read the amount of material necessary to be completely knowledgeable about the sim without spending time with an instructor! That definitely does happen, but most people just want to have some fun and studying and studying for a video game just doesn't seem right to most people.

Personally, I probably spend more time reading related material than I do in-game. For now it has just been general u-boat information. I haven't really read much on the subject since my elementary school days. (I definitely was a nerd). The last subsim I really played was Wolfpack back in 1990! Amazingly, I still remembered enough of the concepts from that game to not be lost in this new sim.

TL;DR:

This game has progressed so much since release, its a real daunting task to get up to speed. (but that's where a lot of the fun is)

Jimbuna · 02-20-09, 03:37 PM

When starting at the beginning it should be August 1st.

On 4th you'll get a radio message ordering you to return to base.

Upon your return request a transfer to, say the 2nd and you'll have a few days to cruise to your designated patrol grid prior to the commencement of hostilities just like they did historically.

02-19-09, 04:37 PM	#1
casey.phobic Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Carolina Posts: 22 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	What is the point of 1939? Ahoy, I suppose I may be jumping the gun in a way, but is the point of 1939 to go out to sea and wait for war to be declared? I'm pretty new to this game (been playing only since October), and i just reinstalled with GWX 3.0. I started the earliest career I could since I'm still very n00bish and I want to have the least amount of resistance while I hone my skills. I started a career with that Flotilla that begins near Finland. I set out and just started sinking Polish merchants and whatever other Polish ships I could find. I suppose they were still neutral at this point because when i returned to base, there were German ships firing on me, coastal artillery firing on me etc. I just dove for periscope depth and they lost me. I continued to hear shells exploding and such so I went to the bird's eye view. Oh MAN was it chaos! German ships sinking German ships..every man for himself! It was pretty fun to watch, but it clearly is telling me that I did something wrong. Can any of you give me some advice here? On a side note, I keep getting a patrol assignment for BF10. I'm sure you all know that BF10 does not exist. I figured that maybe they're meaning for me to just patrol anywhere in BF sector for 24 hours, but that doesn't seem the case. I did a search in the forums and found that GWX won't give you any renown for patrolling an assigned sector anyway, but it looks like the BF10 thing is sort of a mystery to a lot of sailors here. Salut!

02-19-09, 04:56 PM	#3
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	The point is to get out and have a shakedown cruise. Get a patrol's worth of experience for your crew and earn a qualification for one of them. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

02-19-09, 05:54 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The game originally started on September 1, the first day of the war. Many of us pointed out that a bunch of u-boats were assigned to be on station that day, so departed two weeks earlier. The game can be modified to allow a starting date of the first of any month of the war (stock game only allows for Sept '39, or the first day of 1940, '41, '42 or '43) but it can't be made to start you on August 19, so GWX3 does the best it can with what it was given. So, you can select Sept 1 as your starting date if you want, or August as some of us do. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-19-09, 06:55 PM	#7
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Also, some first patrols would not give you tonnage, so the shakedown will eiliminate that possibility. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

02-20-09, 12:16 AM	#9
Chad ACE Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,274 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Okay, here's a dumb question. I've got the latest GWX and SH3 commander, however, when i start a career in Sh3 commander the earliest I can start is 9-1939 __________________

02-19-09, 04:51 PM	#2
bgey Mate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 57 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Quoting the GWX manual out of laziness: ------- Campaign Start The stock Silent Hunter III campaign began on September 1, 1939. Historically, U-boats began moving to their wartime patrol areas starting around August 15, 1939, so GWX has advanced the start of the campaign to August 1, 1939 to allow players to reach their historical patrol areas before the war begins. -------- Most people do a short (4 or 5 days) shakedown patrol. Go sight seeing. Oh, btw, be sure to take a look at that GWX manual. It has tons of useful and interesting information! Benny

02-19-09, 04:59 PM	#4
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	After your first patrol you should begin your next patrol with enough time to get into your patrol position before England declares war on Germany.

02-19-09, 05:45 PM	#5
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	There is 4 months of war in 1939. After Sept 1/39 the war is on and that is probably the best time to learn the game as most merchants are unarmed, many travel alone and their is few escorts.

02-19-09, 07:11 PM	#8
casey.phobic Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Carolina Posts: 22 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Thanks mates, I'll have to start a new career to undo my sole responsibility for the beginning of international war.

02-20-09, 07:42 AM	#12
mmm...Dönitz Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 32 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'll be starting a career soon, and I plan to use the first shakedown cruise to sort out my crew management and do some practise torpedo runs on neutral ships - just to get some experience of doing the Naval Academy stuff well away from home waters. I plan to be in it for the long term Long enough to turn into a drunkard who yells "ALARM" whenever the phone rings

02-20-09, 02:02 PM	#14
casey.phobic Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Carolina Posts: 22 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Yeah, especially if you've installed GWX 3.0 AND you're new. I can understand, though. I've flown IL-2 for years and years and by now the sim is about 6 years old. Over that time so much has been learned by the people who began on day one, it would really be impossible for any newcomer to read the amount of material necessary to be completely knowledgeable about the sim without spending time with an instructor! That definitely does happen, but most people just want to have some fun and studying and studying for a video game just doesn't seem right to most people. Personally, I probably spend more time reading related material than I do in-game. For now it has just been general u-boat information. I haven't really read much on the subject since my elementary school days. (I definitely was a nerd). The last subsim I really played was Wolfpack back in 1990! Amazingly, I still remembered enough of the concepts from that game to not be lost in this new sim. TL;DR: This game has progressed so much since release, its a real daunting task to get up to speed. (but that's where a lot of the fun is)

02-20-09, 03:37 PM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	When starting at the beginning it should be August 1st. On 4th you'll get a radio message ordering you to return to base. Upon your return request a transfer to, say the 2nd and you'll have a few days to cruise to your designated patrol grid prior to the commencement of hostilities just like they did historically. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!