I'm really starting to like this guy...

DeepIron · 12-07-08, 07:21 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/...omy/index.html

Yeah, I know it's just talk right now... but at least it's talk I can identify with... Finally, a guy with some common sense...

subchaser12 · 12-07-08, 07:39 PM

He got elected because he isn't a "good ol boy". I'm a white male, but I'm not a RICH white male so I don't get invited to those private meetings on yaghts where the country is split up amongst the rich elite establishment.

It's about damn time someone did something for the country. They spend millions in our tax dollars to blow up bridges in Asscrackistan and then we spend milions to build it back and here in America people die when bridges collapse.

Kapt Z · 12-07-08, 07:42 PM

this post is just drifting out there.....waiting.....:hmm:

MothBalls · 12-07-08, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/...omy/index.html

Yeah, I know it's just talk right now... but at least it's talk I can identify with... Finally, a guy with some common sense...

I just hope he understands cause and affect of everything he is planning. I see good and bad in his plans.

He needs line item veto authority, something many presidents have tried to get and failed. There's really no other way to eliminate the pork without slowing things down to a crawl.

I don't agree with his idea of investing in the current infrastructure. Even though it is needed, it needs to be different. Maybe it's time to replace the railroads with something better, something more effective.

When the investment was made in the federal highway system there were added benefits that came with it. It created more opportunities, businesses, and opened up unpopulated areas to development. Repairing the existing infrastructure won't have the same effects. It needs to be done but I think it should be handled at the state level, paid for with a fuel tax.

Spending is good but too much deficit spending could have a negative affect if it devalues the dollar much further. It would make me more comfortable if he had a plan to pay for all of the new programs he's proposed.

I guess time will tell. We all know, and he keeps reminding us, it will get worse before it gets better. Time for this generation to roll up its sleeves and get to work, just like our ancestors who built this country.

August · 12-07-08, 08:24 PM

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I don't agree with his idea of investing in the current infrastructure. Even though it is needed, it needs to be different. Maybe it's time to replace the railroads with something better, something more effective.

I'd be happy if we just recreated the railroad network we had in the 1940's with today's technology. Most of the rights of way still exist and we could use an alternative to the airlines.

subchaser12 · 12-07-08, 08:45 PM

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I'd be happy if we just recreated the railroad network we had in the 1940's with today's technology. Most of the rights of way still exist and we could use an alternative to the airlines.

The country has been anti mass transit thanks to the "big 3" automakers wanting everyone and their cousin in a car. Yes the same big three who are begging to be "rescued".

August · 12-07-08, 08:48 PM

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I'd be happy if we just recreated the railroad network we had in the 1940's with today's technology. Most of the rights of way still exist and we could use an alternative to the airlines.

The country has been anti mass transit thanks to the "big 3" automakers wanting everyone and their cousin in a car. Yes the same big three who are begging to be "rescued".

Your point?

subchaser12 · 12-07-08, 08:51 PM

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I'd be happy if we just recreated the railroad network we had in the 1940's with today's technology. Most of the rights of way still exist and we could use an alternative to the airlines.

The country has been anti mass transit thanks to the "big 3" automakers wanting everyone and their cousin in a car. Yes the same big three who are begging to be "rescued".

Your point?

Wasn't it clear enough for you? Here I'll put it this way. No bullet trains for you. Understand?

August · 12-07-08, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I'd be happy if we just recreated the railroad network we had in the 1940's with today's technology. Most of the rights of way still exist and we could use an alternative to the airlines.

The country has been anti mass transit thanks to the "big 3" automakers wanting everyone and their cousin in a car. Yes the same big three who are begging to be "rescued".

Your point?

Wasn't it clear enough for you? Here I'll put it this way. No bullet trains for you. Understand?

Sounds like you're happy about that. What's your solution?

baggygreen · 12-07-08, 09:54 PM

I gotta agree, it comes across as though you're happy there will be no trains, subchaser?

as for OBH, well he's gonna need his wits about him as soon as he takes office, I suspect a few hotspots around the globe.

In the US, i saw he plans on doing work on the interstate highways to generate jobs. Anyone notice he didnt say the word 'spend' once? :hmm: I have visions of people volunteering to jump into chain gangs like the 30s!

August · 12-07-08, 10:02 PM

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as for OBH, well he's gonna need his wits about him as soon as he takes office

I do wish him success.

DeepIron · 12-07-08, 10:22 PM

I'd love to see the RR's brought back kto their former glory and usefulness...

Kapt Z · 12-07-08, 10:33 PM

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I'd love to see the RR's brought back kto their former glory and usefulness...

That and more buses! When I studied in the UK in the late '80s it seemed you could literally go anywhere without a car. It might take you a little while, but if it existed a bus or train could get you there.

Here in NJ, our most crowded state, unless you want to go into the big cities you are out of luck if you don't have a car. It's crazy.

subchaser12 · 12-07-08, 11:36 PM

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I gotta agree, it comes across as though you're happy there will be no trains, subchaser?

I am train neutral. I'm just pointing out why the country is anti mass transit. I'm a car loving American. I like my car and I don't care, I'm driving everywhere. I'm just saying I don't think trains are an issue.

Stealth Hunter · 12-08-08, 01:54 AM

I don't care. I could do without a car. It would probably be better for my health if I walked around town, anyway.

12-07-08, 07:21 PM	#1
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12-07-08, 07:39 PM	#2
subchaser12 Sonar Guy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Spam, duplicate accounts, provoking moderators. Posts: 377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	He got elected because he isn't a "good ol boy". I'm a white male, but I'm not a RICH white male so I don't get invited to those private meetings on yaghts where the country is split up amongst the rich elite establishment. It's about damn time someone did something for the country. They spend millions in our tax dollars to blow up bridges in Asscrackistan and then we spend milions to build it back and here in America people die when bridges collapse.

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Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	this post is just drifting out there.....waiting.....:hmm:

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baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I gotta agree, it comes across as though you're happy there will be no trains, subchaser? as for OBH, well he's gonna need his wits about him as soon as he takes office, I suspect a few hotspots around the globe. In the US, i saw he plans on doing work on the interstate highways to generate jobs. Anyone notice he didnt say the word 'spend' once? :hmm: I have visions of people volunteering to jump into chain gangs like the 30s!

12-08-08, 01:54 AM	#15
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I don't care. I could do without a car. It would probably be better for my health if I walked around town, anyway.