GWX Play question

Agrajag · 07-05-07, 08:52 PM

Okay, re-installed the full game last night after about a year away from it. I also installed GWX and pushed out from Kiel to start my new career.

I'm dealing with having to re-learn the sim again on top of GWX but am a bit confused on a couple of points.

GWX, so far, is sending me a ton of radio messages and they're a bit confusing. First, it's 1939. What can I attack and what can't I attack?

Second, it appears that GWX does not let you know that a target is an enemy target. That's fine but what's the best process for identifying something as a valid target? I was looking at a merchant ship last night and still couldn't readily identify it (I think it was a Danish ship) when it got to 1500m directly in front of me (it was night.)

Thanks.

antikristuseke · 07-05-07, 08:56 PM

When in the uzo or periscope view you can pull out a sheet with the flags of each country represented and under each flag there are the dates at which the given nation is either neutral, pert of the allies or part of the axis. The only way to identify a ships nationality and histility is by its flag, well you can allso come under fire to establish hostility :P.

Agrajag · 07-05-07, 09:06 PM

So if I see a great target (guess it's not so great if I can't ID it), then I have to get close enough to see the flag and then back off and re-run the attack again?

I guess once the war really gets going, anything in the enemy areas is likely to be a target.

Schöneboom · 07-05-07, 09:15 PM

Neutral ships tend to run with all their lights on, while combatant-nation ships run with lights out. This helps me a lot.

BTW, regarding the "mixed messages" from BdU in '39, I remember those, too (in German). Figure that sinking a passenger liner full of civilians would be very bad PR for the Reich -- hence the restrictions. However, if you find one in an escorted convoy, you may assume it's been converted to a troop transport. Then it's a legitimate target. In my condition, that's as much complexity as I can handle.

antikristuseke · 07-05-07, 09:20 PM

ohyeah, forgot about that part about the lights. Anyway you dont have to break off and do another attack run, just set up a course that puts you in a position to attack from arround 1500-700m depending on visibility and commit to the attack if its a viable target, if not break off and disapear.

TarJak · 07-05-07, 10:33 PM

You could just try to get close enough and the shout and ask if they are enemy!:rotfl::rotfl:

Seriously though one of the joys of GWX is that you can flex on how you want to play. If you want to use the external camera to work out who's who then you can. If not then you play the way it was designed and try to get into a position where you can ID them properly with the UZO or binocs. You can almost rest assured anything near Britain with an escort it fair game. Almost

Gute Jagd!

Agrajag · 07-05-07, 11:42 PM

One other question guys. Where should I hang out early in the game? First time I played all the way through the war and I recall going out on several runs before even finding a target.

I'd like to try to avoid that this time around.

Brag · 07-06-07, 08:25 AM

If you have a VII go West of British Isles, lots of traffic there.
East is a bit tricky, shallow water and extensive minefields.
The Belle Isle passage is rich in traffic.

Visit the Spinnennetz thread in the stickies section. The intel map will show you the hot areas.

Jimbuna · 07-06-07, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agrajag

One other question guys. Where should I hang out early in the game? First time I played all the way through the war and I recall going out on several runs before even finding a target.

I'd like to try to avoid that this time around.

If your using SH3 Commander then just trust in your assigned grid, if your not, you have the convoy route map you can access/pull down from the top left corner of your navigation screen

Agrajag · 07-06-07, 12:35 PM

Just so it's clear, I do own the product so I have the real map as well. Just a pain to keep taking it out. My one "gripe" with GWX is that the map they give you can't be zoomed. Great idea just of limited use for me.

Should I be using SH3 Commander? I just started so I could either restart or use it without having it be too big a deal.

Does it play well with GWX? If so, what should be my next step?

Jimbuna · 07-06-07, 12:48 PM

I cannot recommend highly enough that you use SH3 Commander

SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Visit the GWX homepage and download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder.

Agrajag · 07-06-07, 12:53 PM

I'm reading about it now and it's a bit confusing on first read. I think I'll just go for it and see where it gets me.

Jimbuna · 07-06-07, 03:21 PM

Go for it mate....you'll not regret it

07-05-07, 08:52 PM	#1
Agrajag Watch Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	GWX Play question Okay, re-installed the full game last night after about a year away from it. I also installed GWX and pushed out from Kiel to start my new career. I'm dealing with having to re-learn the sim again on top of GWX but am a bit confused on a couple of points. GWX, so far, is sending me a ton of radio messages and they're a bit confusing. First, it's 1939. What can I attack and what can't I attack? Second, it appears that GWX does not let you know that a target is an enemy target. That's fine but what's the best process for identifying something as a valid target? I was looking at a merchant ship last night and still couldn't readily identify it (I think it was a Danish ship) when it got to 1500m directly in front of me (it was night.) Thanks.

07-05-07, 09:15 PM	#4
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Neutral ships tend to run with all their lights on, while combatant-nation ships run with lights out. This helps me a lot. BTW, regarding the "mixed messages" from BdU in '39, I remember those, too (in German). Figure that sinking a passenger liner full of civilians would be very bad PR for the Reich -- hence the restrictions. However, if you find one in an escorted convoy, you may assume it's been converted to a troop transport. Then it's a legitimate target. In my condition, that's as much complexity as I can handle. __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher." Last edited by Schöneboom; 07-05-07 at 09:29 PM.

07-06-07, 08:25 AM	#8
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	If you have a VII go West of British Isles, lots of traffic there. East is a bit tricky, shallow water and extensive minefields. The Belle Isle passage is rich in traffic. Visit the Spinnennetz thread in the stickies section. The intel map will show you the hot areas. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

07-06-07, 12:48 PM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I cannot recommend highly enough that you use SH3 Commander SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Visit the GWX homepage and download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-06-07, 03:21 PM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Go for it mate....you'll not regret it __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-05-07, 08:56 PM	#2
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	When in the uzo or periscope view you can pull out a sheet with the flags of each country represented and under each flag there are the dates at which the given nation is either neutral, pert of the allies or part of the axis. The only way to identify a ships nationality and histility is by its flag, well you can allso come under fire to establish hostility :P.

07-05-07, 09:06 PM	#3
Agrajag Watch Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So if I see a great target (guess it's not so great if I can't ID it), then I have to get close enough to see the flag and then back off and re-run the attack again? I guess once the war really gets going, anything in the enemy areas is likely to be a target.

07-05-07, 09:20 PM	#5
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	ohyeah, forgot about that part about the lights. Anyway you dont have to break off and do another attack run, just set up a course that puts you in a position to attack from arround 1500-700m depending on visibility and commit to the attack if its a viable target, if not break off and disapear.

07-05-07, 10:33 PM	#6
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	You could just try to get close enough and the shout and ask if they are enemy!:rotfl::rotfl: Seriously though one of the joys of GWX is that you can flex on how you want to play. If you want to use the external camera to work out who's who then you can. If not then you play the way it was designed and try to get into a position where you can ID them properly with the UZO or binocs. You can almost rest assured anything near Britain with an escort it fair game. Almost Gute Jagd!

07-05-07, 11:42 PM	#7
Agrajag Watch Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	One other question guys. Where should I hang out early in the game? First time I played all the way through the war and I recall going out on several runs before even finding a target. I'd like to try to avoid that this time around.

07-06-07, 12:35 PM	#10
Agrajag Watch Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just so it's clear, I do own the product so I have the real map as well. Just a pain to keep taking it out. My one "gripe" with GWX is that the map they give you can't be zoomed. Great idea just of limited use for me. Should I be using SH3 Commander? I just started so I could either restart or use it without having it be too big a deal. Does it play well with GWX? If so, what should be my next step?

07-06-07, 12:53 PM	#12
Agrajag Watch Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm reading about it now and it's a bit confusing on first read. I think I'll just go for it and see where it gets me.