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Old 06-16-07, 12:20 PM   #1
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Default US Army launches new Iraq offensive.

The US Army, supported by various other ash and trash, has launched a new offensive in Iraq. SITREP to follow.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,283280,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6759409.stm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19259106/

It's funny that Fox News and MSNBC carry the same AP Story. No word on CBS, ABC, or CNN.
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Old 06-16-07, 12:33 PM   #2
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How...hm, how - usual?

How many offensives and major operations have there been in the past? I lost track, sorry.
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"Offensive" isnt really the right word if you're fighting for control in a country you allready conquered.
No hills to be taken here.
"Major security operation" would be more to the point.
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Old 06-16-07, 12:45 PM   #4
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"Offensive" isnt really the right word if you're fighting for control in a country you allready conquered.
No hills to be taken here.
"Major security operation" would be more to the point.
But that doesn't make for a very good talking point, does it?
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Old 06-16-07, 01:26 PM   #5
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"Offensive" isnt really the right word if you're fighting for control in a country you allready conquered.
No hills to be taken here.
"Major security operation" would be more to the point.
How about,"Continuing Occupation of a Foreign Country for Oil" ?
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Old 06-16-07, 01:47 PM   #6
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How 'bout we keep the fightin' over there????

That way we can live our lives oblivious to what true Muslims want ...

Just keep yer head in the sand...

Don't worry over the fact that people are being dragged out of their homes and work places into the streets --- Just to receive a bullet in the brain for not practising the Muslim religion... As I understand it , this way of converting new members is highly effective... That is to say not on the person receiving the bullet but on the people who watch...

Ok ... now strap on yer bombs!
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Old 06-16-07, 01:53 PM   #7
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Don't worry over the fact that people are being dragged out of their homes and work places into the streets --- Just to receive a bullet in the brain for not practising the Muslim religion...
As far as I understand, the offensive operation means a lot of people receiving bullets for totally different reasons. Or are those bullets somehow different? :hmm:
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How about,"Continuing Occupation of a Foreign Country for Oil" ?
That doesn't quite apply - All oil contracts were given to China and India. The US of A gets no oil from this deal. The decision was reached to honor the old contracts that were in place prior to the reactivation of the Gulf war.
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Old 06-18-07, 03:35 PM   #9
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Well... no matter.

How ever you wish to twist to accommodate your choice of how you prefer to recognise your view of reality is no skin off my nose.

Red is Red and Green is Green

Black is Black and White is White

You are You and Me be Me

Reason will Reason

Treason is Treason

In the end but one Judge will say.


Oh... and sorry for misspellin' "Ostrich"



Here ya go...


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Before the war, Iraqi daily oil production was around 2 million barrels per day.

Now the Chinese are allowed to get a deal on producing 70.000 barrels maximum per day. Vietnam gets another 60.000 maximum, India i think 40.ooo at daily maximum, but I could be wrong on that last number.

So China is allowed to produce 3.5% of the former daily production, Vietnam is allowed to produce 3% of the former daily production, and India is allowed to produce 2% of the former daily production.

Priority was and is to bring Iraq's oil production back to pre-war values. If that is reached, the current contracts make sure that china and India will remain dwarfs in Iraq's oil business. So I wonder who the US is planning to get into place to take care of the lion's share of the remaining 91.5% of the former daily production - oil that obviously is available for production? It is neither China, nor India, nor Vietnam. Could it be - could it be American companies...? Hardly. "All" oil contracts went to China and India, we just learned. The US "get's no oil from this deal", we get taught. It was about "honouring oil contracts that were in place before the war". Agreed - and removing Saddam from power was considered to be an act of politeness, sure...

How could anyone think that the war last but not least was about cleaning the opposition in oil production off the field and taking over their shares of the cake, while deceiving people about this by launching PR stunts like this story about China's "leading" role in future oil production in Iraq?
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How about,"Continuing Occupation of a Foreign Country for Oil" ?
That doesn't quite apply - All oil contracts were given to China and India. The US of A gets no oil from this deal. The decision was reached to honor the old contracts that were in place prior to the reactivation of the Gulf war.
Its still a powerplay. Control of the oil fields is just as significant. Its like with the northwest passage in Canada. The US wants to be the caretaker of it so as to ensure its "safe for world trade". Thats why american submarines continue to violate Canadian waters. One made a submerged run of the passage a few years ago and more recently one just sat inside Canadian waters basically to indicate that the US doesn't care about Canadian sovereignty and to demonstrate that we can't stop them.

Theres also the fact that the US is trying to force Iraq to denationalize its oil fields thus opening up the market.
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