Sabotage??

Immelman · 04-09-10, 04:39 PM

In all my careers and all my patrols I never experienced this so help me out here. I just left port and something is wrong. I am seem to be moving as if only one motor was functioning and yet I see both props working away. All systems are operational in the Damage management screen and I did not receive any messages from BdU or informed that I have been sabotaged. So what gives??

sergei · 04-09-10, 04:57 PM

Do you have malfunctions or sabotage turned on in Commander?

Immelman · 04-09-10, 05:01 PM

Yes I always have it on but nothing ever happened to me before... Oops I just upgraded SH Commander to a newer version! But shouldn't I be notified that something is wrong with the boat? Both diesels engines show an rpm count and both props are turning wth??

04-09-10, 05:02 PM

Probably won't help but, try ordering "Standard Propulsion".
Maybe something is screwed up, and the batteries are being recharged.

I try to come up with something better.

sergei · 04-09-10, 05:05 PM

I play with those options turned off, so I don't know for sure, but I don't think the game gives you a notification of malfunction.

Probably clutch slippage. I'm sure this is one of the malfunctions Commander simulates.

timmy41 · 04-09-10, 06:10 PM

I see that often on my own sub, I always thought it was because they were charging a battery.

sharkbit · 04-10-10, 01:52 AM

I know there is no notifications of malfunctions in-game. Usually, it is at a very inconvienient time that you discover one.
Like crash diving and realizing your engines stop instead of going to flank. Or you're 3/4 of the way to America and your notice your fuel supply has dropped considerably and you have barely enough to get home from where you are. You start looking for milk cows or friendly supply ships in neutral ports real fast.

My latest was a fogged attack scope and a task force with a Southampton cruiser and 3 destroyers coming my way and me in a perfect positioon. I got him though through judicious use of the observation scope and the blurry attack scope.
At least I think it was amalfunction and not a graphics issue. During the subsequent light depth charging, my attack scope was damaged. After surfacing later and repairing it, the scope was back to normal.

krashkart · 04-10-10, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Immelman

In all my careers and all my patrols I never experienced this so help me out here. I just left port and something is wrong. I am seem to be moving as if only one motor was functioning and yet I see both props working away. All systems are operational in the Damage management screen and I did not receive any messages from BdU or informed that I have been sabotaged. So what gives??

I wonder if someones undies got wrapped around a prop shaft?

Shamelessly ripped off from frau kaleun.

Ooorrr.... someone ran out of beer and went mad...

Ooorr... someone lubed a propeller shaft with Vegemite instead of grease...

Or, you have a stow-away somewhere aboard.

rudderless · 04-10-10, 05:01 AM

The malfunctions option adds a little bit of fun at the most inconvenient time.
Does the length of your patrol affect the boats performance?

krashkart · 04-10-10, 05:08 AM

In the stock game I never noticed any degradation of Uboat performance on a long patrol.

Jimbuna · 04-10-10, 06:44 AM

The game will not warn you of malfunctions, that is for you to realise and a good enough reason to run checks once you have left port and entered the open sea.

Below is a list of some of the possible malfunctions:

Flak guns taking additional time to reload or being unable to reload at all.

Differing blur duration times to simulate periscope seal/lens integrity, also the possibility of a disabled attack scope zoom.

Schnorkel raise/lower times.

Reduced top speed at Flank speed.

Surface range decreased between 40% & 80%

Battery range decreased between 75% & 20%

Flak guns jam after initial firing require additional time to clear and reload or in some cases actual repair to return to operational status.

Radar set appears operational but overall radar effective range reduced dramatically rendering system nearly useless.

Maximum speed both surfaced and submerged reduced, surface and submerged ranges reduced, increased dive time, increased turn radius.

Immelman · 04-10-10, 07:28 AM

Holly ****!! Good to know, thanks for sharing the info!! Partisan scum! Any one know if this happens at German or Allied ports like Italy?

geosub1978 · 04-10-10, 07:34 AM

I have also noticed a trim disturbance as a malfunction.

Jimbuna · 04-10-10, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Immelman

Holly ****!! Good to know, thanks for sharing the info!! Partisan scum! Any one know if this happens at German or Allied ports like Italy?

It can happen in any port you commence your patrol from.

Jimbuna · 04-10-10, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by geosub1978

I have also noticed a trim disturbance as a malfunction.

Yes, that is another:

Level off depth from crash dive in meters indicative of stuck valves or manifolds controlling incoming water also possible jammed dive planes.

I did say earlier I was highlighting only 'some' of the malfunctions

04-09-10, 04:39 PM	#1
Immelman Sparky Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 150 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Sabotage?? In all my careers and all my patrols I never experienced this so help me out here. I just left port and something is wrong. I am seem to be moving as if only one motor was functioning and yet I see both props working away. All systems are operational in the Damage management screen and I did not receive any messages from BdU or informed that I have been sabotaged. So what gives?? __________________ Fotia kai tsekouri

04-09-10, 05:01 PM	#3
Immelman Sparky Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 150 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yes I always have it on but nothing ever happened to me before... Oops I just upgraded SH Commander to a newer version! But shouldn't I be notified that something is wrong with the boat? Both diesels engines show an rpm count and both props are turning wth?? __________________ Fotia kai tsekouri

04-10-10, 01:52 AM	#7
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I know there is no notifications of malfunctions in-game. Usually, it is at a very inconvienient time that you discover one. Like crash diving and realizing your engines stop instead of going to flank. Or you're 3/4 of the way to America and your notice your fuel supply has dropped considerably and you have barely enough to get home from where you are. You start looking for milk cows or friendly supply ships in neutral ports real fast. My latest was a fogged attack scope and a task force with a Southampton cruiser and 3 destroyers coming my way and me in a perfect positioon. I got him though through judicious use of the observation scope and the blurry attack scope. At least I think it was amalfunction and not a graphics issue. During the subsequent light depth charging, my attack scope was damaged. After surfacing later and repairing it, the scope was back to normal. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

04-10-10, 05:08 AM	#10
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	In the stock game I never noticed any degradation of Uboat performance on a long patrol. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

04-10-10, 06:44 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,753 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The game will not warn you of malfunctions, that is for you to realise and a good enough reason to run checks once you have left port and entered the open sea. Below is a list of some of the possible malfunctions: Flak guns taking additional time to reload or being unable to reload at all. Differing blur duration times to simulate periscope seal/lens integrity, also the possibility of a disabled attack scope zoom. Schnorkel raise/lower times. Reduced top speed at Flank speed. Surface range decreased between 40% & 80% Battery range decreased between 75% & 20% Flak guns jam after initial firing require additional time to clear and reload or in some cases actual repair to return to operational status. Radar set appears operational but overall radar effective range reduced dramatically rendering system nearly useless. Maximum speed both surfaced and submerged reduced, surface and submerged ranges reduced, increased dive time, increased turn radius. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

04-09-10, 04:57 PM	#2
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Do you have malfunctions or sabotage turned on in Commander?

04-09-10, 05:02 PM	#4
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Probably won't help but, try ordering "Standard Propulsion". Maybe something is screwed up, and the batteries are being recharged. I try to come up with something better.

04-09-10, 05:05 PM	#5
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	I play with those options turned off, so I don't know for sure, but I don't think the game gives you a notification of malfunction. Probably clutch slippage. I'm sure this is one of the malfunctions Commander simulates.

04-09-10, 06:10 PM	#6
timmy41 Weps Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 367 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I see that often on my own sub, I always thought it was because they were charging a battery.

04-10-10, 05:01 AM	#9
rudderless Watch Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 20 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	The malfunctions option adds a little bit of fun at the most inconvenient time. Does the length of your patrol affect the boats performance?

04-10-10, 07:28 AM	#12
Immelman Sparky Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 150 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Holly ****!! Good to know, thanks for sharing the info!! Partisan scum! Any one know if this happens at German or Allied ports like Italy? __________________ Fotia kai tsekouri

04-10-10, 07:34 AM	#13
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	I have also noticed a trim disturbance as a malfunction. __________________