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CCIP · 10-20-12, 06:45 PM

They are controllable on the strategic map (i.e. you can send them places and they will attack ships), but not on the tactical map or in battles; they do appear in engagements, but all they will do is launch torpedoes (if they are close to an enemy ship) and dive at the start of a scenario, "disappearing" from the map.

Granted, that's not unfair - given the limitations of both the U-boats and ASW in that period, direct tactical control over subs would make them extremely unrealistic.

Strategically, subs aren't incredibly effective, but are able to throw in some very nasty surprises nonetheless. I've lost several capital ships and countless smaller ships to torpedo attacks on the strategic map, and even when these attacks don't sink anything, they can seriously damage ships and result in long repair times. They are also okay at scouting and excellent at commerce raiding.

However the game is really not "about" subs in any serious fashion - it's about surface combat, mostly between "big guys". You will be dealing with your subs for maybe 1% of your time in the game.

10-20-12, 06:45 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	They are controllable on the strategic map (i.e. you can send them places and they will attack ships), but not on the tactical map or in battles; they do appear in engagements, but all they will do is launch torpedoes (if they are close to an enemy ship) and dive at the start of a scenario, "disappearing" from the map. Granted, that's not unfair - given the limitations of both the U-boats and ASW in that period, direct tactical control over subs would make them extremely unrealistic. Strategically, subs aren't incredibly effective, but are able to throw in some very nasty surprises nonetheless. I've lost several capital ships and countless smaller ships to torpedo attacks on the strategic map, and even when these attacks don't sink anything, they can seriously damage ships and result in long repair times. They are also okay at scouting and excellent at commerce raiding. However the game is really not "about" subs in any serious fashion - it's about surface combat, mostly between "big guys". You will be dealing with your subs for maybe 1% of your time in the game. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)