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rditto48801 · 04-13-10, 08:36 AM

This looks interesting, but the side by side guns in the rear seems a bit odd to me. Would the middle pair be able to aim either side, or is each one going to be restricted to a single side arc?

If you did go with the caterpillars and the props, how about going with a central mounted impeller to help with the feel of keeping down noise and optimizing thrust? Especially since it would provide a stealthy backup in case of loosing (all of) the caterpillar drive(s) (more for realism than anything)

One thing comes to mind about gun turrets, if it could be done, anyways.

The basic design of the Advanced Gun System that has been in development by the US Navy.
More importantly, the stealthy gun housing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Gun_System

Using a more sleek/hydrodynamic shape for the turret/gun housing, it would possibly be a neat concept for a more modern sub to have deck guns using a similar housing, while still being as hydrodynamic as possible and still minimizing anything that might stir up water and cause noise while submerged. (possibly 'seated' into the base of the conning tower to conceal there presence in general?)
Would such a thing be possible?
Or are turrets used restricted to just the turrets that are already in SH4?

Another idea, gun mounts in the 'bathtub', such as an interior railing on the sides with fixtures for pintle mountings (right term?) for heavy weapons, such as .50 calibers, other machine guns, etc. Would be taken below deck when diving, and need to be brought up and mounted after surfacing. (Just 'vanish' when diving?) Not much, but it would give a sub some extra firepower for swatting aircraft and providing suppressive fire against the exposed deck crews of enemy ships (not that the later would be much more than 'fluff text' and just be another way to put extra holes in enemy ships with little or no armor... like Sampans...)
Also, AA turrets like on the German Type XXI, if possible (with dual 40mm instead of dual 20mm?), for added firepower and defense and shredding annoying targets of small size... like Sampans possibly trying to phone home...

And yes, I like the idea of a sub that can slug it out with a destroyer, small armed convoy and be a bane of aircraft by shear volume of AA fire it can put in comparison to other subs, and then outrun anything not an aircraft or psycho DD hellbent on knocking on the conning tower hatch with depth charges.

Also, I second the thing for a possible flat deck. The 'platforms' just seem out of place on a sub.

04-13-10, 08:36 AM	#7
rditto48801 Mate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In the middle of a giant mitten. Posts: 54 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	This looks interesting, but the side by side guns in the rear seems a bit odd to me. Would the middle pair be able to aim either side, or is each one going to be restricted to a single side arc? If you did go with the caterpillars and the props, how about going with a central mounted impeller to help with the feel of keeping down noise and optimizing thrust? Especially since it would provide a stealthy backup in case of loosing (all of) the caterpillar drive(s) (more for realism than anything) One thing comes to mind about gun turrets, if it could be done, anyways. The basic design of the Advanced Gun System that has been in development by the US Navy. More importantly, the stealthy gun housing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Gun_System Using a more sleek/hydrodynamic shape for the turret/gun housing, it would possibly be a neat concept for a more modern sub to have deck guns using a similar housing, while still being as hydrodynamic as possible and still minimizing anything that might stir up water and cause noise while submerged. (possibly 'seated' into the base of the conning tower to conceal there presence in general?) Would such a thing be possible? Or are turrets used restricted to just the turrets that are already in SH4? Another idea, gun mounts in the 'bathtub', such as an interior railing on the sides with fixtures for pintle mountings (right term?) for heavy weapons, such as .50 calibers, other machine guns, etc. Would be taken below deck when diving, and need to be brought up and mounted after surfacing. (Just 'vanish' when diving?) Not much, but it would give a sub some extra firepower for swatting aircraft and providing suppressive fire against the exposed deck crews of enemy ships (not that the later would be much more than 'fluff text' and just be another way to put extra holes in enemy ships with little or no armor... like Sampans...) Also, AA turrets like on the German Type XXI, if possible (with dual 40mm instead of dual 20mm?), for added firepower and defense and shredding annoying targets of small size... like Sampans possibly trying to phone home... And yes, I like the idea of a sub that can slug it out with a destroyer, small armed convoy and be a bane of aircraft by shear volume of AA fire it can put in comparison to other subs, and then outrun anything not an aircraft or psycho DD hellbent on knocking on the conning tower hatch with depth charges. Also, I second the thing for a possible flat deck. The 'platforms' just seem out of place on a sub. __________________ Darn the speed, full torpedoes ahead! Run Silent, Run Deep, Run them Ragged, Let The Prey Not Sleep.