The other thing..
The other thing I think should be mentioned here is that you *rarely* bordering on *never* want to be using the radar.
In 688i I think there was one time I used the radar, and it was when you have to pick up a downed pilot in a raft, and I knew I was in the general area but I used the radar to pinpoint him off my bow.
It's a known, real-world fact that radar energy can be detected *at least* 5 times further than it produces an effective return -- so when you use your radar, you can be easily detected by everyone in the area FIVE TIMES+ further than your radar can be detected. Furthermore, unless in extreme situations or some particular special mission, a submarine *only* uses it's radar when surfaced and transiting to/from base or in restricted waterways, as a navigation aide.
So just figured i'd put that out there for you brother.
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