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Old 11-22-19, 05:35 AM   #8137
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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro View Post
Not President Trump's hand writing just a note well written in printed style so he could read it back. Said the same thing in front of the WH without the note.

All of this will forgotten and the USA will move on to it's next big problem Black Friday sales

Oh, Mr Quatro, once again, the actual facts and truth upend both you and Trump; the notepad is plainly marked with "Aboard Air Force One", a pad which is almost always for the President's sole use (the mobile equivalent of "From The Desk Of The President Of The United States" letterhead), the notes are written in Trump's favorite writing instrument, the broad tip Sharpie (last widely seen falsely altering an official US Government map to deliberately mislead the public into thinking a hurricane, in an way at all, threatened to devastate the state of Alabama), and, the final proof of Trump's hand, the name of the Ukraine President is misspelled (its Zelensky, not "Zellinsky,"), the kind of error Trump does with great frequency in his tweets. So, the claims you have made really don't hold much credence...


Donald Trump Carries 'Quid Pro Quo' Notes to Air Force One, Misspells Ukrainian President Zelensky's Name --

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-notes...ro-quo-1473042


It should also be pointed out the call cited in the notes to Sondland was made very shortly after it was revealed the Whistleblower's complaint had been formally forwarded to the House of Representatives, in keeping with the law, and the call appears to be a frantic rearguard action to make it appear the original intent of Trump, Giuliani, et al, in the Ukraine was not a personally self-interested quid pro quo. This sort of attempt to 'rewrite' the truth post facto is a tactic that has been used often by Trump; the most egregious example is when Trump was caught withholding donations made, ostensibly, to the Trump Foundation to benefit veteran's charities; some USD $2.8 Million was raised, but Trump, via his foundation did not disperse the funds as intended by the contributors, but, instead withheld the funds and used them as a sort of 'slush fund' through which to make purchases for himself and to even payout money to settle personal lawsuit losses; it wasn't until some journalists asked some of the veterans charities that were supposed to receive payouts from the Trump Foundation about how the funds were being used to benefit veterans and the charities responded they had not received a single cent of the funds, that was when the news of the Trump Foundation fraud broke and Trump frantically disbursed some, but still not all of the donated money, all the while trying to make it seem as if the news stories had no impact on the disbursements when it was obvious, if there had been no stories, the funds would still be undisbused, likely to date...


The nature of Trump's call with Sondland with the claims of "No Quid Pro Quo!!" is eerily reminiscent of an Oval Office meeting involving Nixon, some of his co-conspirators, and John Dean, the White House Counsel. The Watergate scandal was beginning to lead up to the very desk of Nixon and those of his closest associates; they needed a fall guy, a patsy, and apparently decided Dean would be the perfect guy. The meeting was setup and the 'conversation' was rigged in such a way as to make it appear Dean was the actual originator and impetus behind Watergate; however, very early on Dean, being far from a fool, realized the direction of the 'conversation' and surmised it was being recorded so as to be presented as evidence of Dean's "crimes" and as an exoneration of Nixon, and, perhaps, some of Nixon's co-conspirators. Dean was careful of his words and, following the meeting, became one of, if not the most important, witnesses against Nixon and his administration...


Considering how Trump made his call statements almost immediately after the House formally received the Whistlblower's formal complaint, with the full knowledge of the now dire consequences of the alleged charges, and how he pointedly made cries of "No Quid Pro Quo!!" in an apparent attempt to counter growing evidence of the actual intent of Trump interactions with the Ukraine, one can only wonder if Sondland had a "John Dean" moment and realized, with a sleazeball like Trump, he was possibly being set up as a possible fall guy/patsy for Trump's Ukraine mess, much as Dean came to realize, in that Oval Office meeting, he was being set up by sleazeball Nixon...


Such a consideration could be the base of Sondland's enthusiasm to declare the existence of a quid pro quo, name those involved, and to describe, in detail, their activities. Consider his testimony as a sort of 'nuclear' preemptive strike against Trump and his minions' possible attempts to pin their crimes on him...


BTW, on your Black Friday shopping, you should avoid buying Trump/MAGA items: they may soon be next to worthless...






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