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Originally Posted by SeaQueen
The thing is, I'm wondering where the heck they got 8-10km anyhow, because really the range of a missile can vary considerably based on launch speed, altitude, etc.
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Some, but apparently not so much for a land-attack weapon depending on its profile.
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AH HA! The SU-24 can carry the AS-11 super-sonic cruise missile which according to FAS has a range of 120km. Too bad it's not modelled. *growl*
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Get your butt in the database and fix it. I recommend DWEdit. I've tried it and its pretty easy to use. Just remember to click Apply in the Dialog boxes and then make sure you save - then kiss all your Save files goodbye for you've just rendered them obsolete, and expect problems in multiplayer...
The AS-11 is not a ASM anyway. It is AFAIK a ARM. The ship needs to be forced to turn on its radar, and constantly. It does have a INS, but a ship moves, so if the radar goes off...
On the AS-14, there is also an alternate minority viewpoint in my experience that says that the
laser variant of the weapon is only 8-10km, but the EO ones (TV/IR) may have 20-30km, so there may be some base to the 18nm version too. I presume if this is true that the implementation of laser-guidance on the Kh-29/AS-14 is relatively crude (example: bang-bang), thus wasting a lot of energy. This is the modeling used in
Su-27 Flanker 2. Try this if you like. Since your main target will be ships or installations, it should be easy on the EO guidance system.
In any case, maritime antishipping work is not exactly the Su-24's primary duty, nor is it the AS-14's. The AS-14 is the Russian version of the Maverick. It is meant for a Su-24 to carry low level to blow up some bridge at close range, not a ship. So for SeaQueen, it is effective - it just wasn't engineered for long-range antiship work and it shows.
Western-sized anti-shipping missiles are somewhat rare in the Russian arsenal anyway. Only in the last years of the Cold War, if that, did they start thinking about that with the Kh-35/SS-N-25.
Before that, a "small" antiship missile might be the P-120/SS-N-9 Siren, which weighs an amazing 3000kg, and those are supposed to be sub missiles anyway. The rest tend to have 1-ton warhead and weigh far too much to carry on anything less than a full Bomber.
So What the Su-24 uses are really a bunch of short and medium range land-attack missiles that are, in DW, pressed into service as antiship weapons.