Of course anything simulated is going to be "simplified" compared to the real deal, so I'm not sure what your point is. The vehicle simulation in Wolfpack is obviously light years ahead of "press S", "press P" of any previous subsim... Just my opinion here of course, but it seems evident that this is by far the most detailed and realistic type VII sub simulation -yet-... Not trying to argue, just don't get why anyone would hold back from that previous statement...?