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Originally Posted by alexsmith
I don't know what to name "problems". 6" in DG1.5 behave not like in 1.0 - maybe because of fires changed of whatever - it doesn't matter. The point is - armored ships are only vulnerable to 10" or more shells - which (maybe) more realistic (doubt) but leads to less interesting and challenging game. That's my point...
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I apologize. I haven't been clear on at least two points:
1. 6" guns *do* penetrate armor in my DG installation. The VARIAG didn't because it never really engaged the one armored cruiser in the formation that I sank it with. But other Russian ships with 6" (152 mm) guns *have* been damaging my Japanese armored cruisers at 3000-4000 yards. My copy of Janes 1905-1906 predicts that the Russian 6"/45 gun would penetrate 6-7" Krupp steel at 3000 yards and that's roughly consistent with what I'm seeing in my Distant Guns 1.5 installation. Of course, I've read someplace that Jane's old armor penetration formulae were wrong. But I can tell you that, when I let 6"/45 shooters get inside 3000 yards in DG 1.5, they start to punch holes in my ships...
2. 6" guns being "useless" would not be realistic based on what I've read. The only historical source that I can see that even hints at that is from CAPT Pakenham who was the senior Royal Navy observer in theater. He apparently said:
"The 10in guns of the
Peresviet and
Pobeida were of 45 calibres, and may also be of greater range, but the effect of every gun is so much less than that of the next larger size, that when 12in guns are firing, shots from 10in pass unoticed, while, for all the respect they instill, 8in or 6 in guns might just as well be pea shooters, and the 12 pdr simply does not count. This must be understood to refer entirely to the moral effect."
D.K. Brown,
Warrior to Dreadnought, Chatham Publishing, London, England, p.175.
But all this guy is saying is that guys aren't afraid of 6" and 8" rounds when they're under fire from 12" guns. Nothing I've read says that 6" were useless historically.
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