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Originally Posted by ICDP
I believe the reason is that you seem have destroyed any illussion of objectivity to do an unbiased review Skybird. You have sated publicly on at least 4 forums that you don't like Steef Fury because it doesn't compare well to SBP. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence will know that the two should not be compared. You have stated that in your opinion SF is more of an action game, clearly this statement is very confusing. How can a sim with realistic tank physics, optics, tank operation and ballistics be deemed an action game?
Now please don't take this as an attack upon you, I am simply explaining the reasons why some on these forums seem aggressive to your stance on Steel Fury. Also the fact that Magnum on SimHQ has not been attacked is because he hasn't been publicly comparing it to a modern, expensive and military standard tank simulation. A comparison that is clearly not a very valid one.
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First, in fact I have said in the forums that I once planned but actually did not compare it to SBP, and skipped a previously planned chapter on detailed comparison for being pointless - the healdine is there, and then I say why it makes not much sense for the reasons you guys are mentioning as well: that SBP simply is too much ahead in developement. My remarks on SF vs SBP are short, therefore. I also explain my understanding of what contributes to a simulation actually being a simulation: and just correct driving and shooting physics is not enough, by far not.It is about how believable the virtual reality is that you are confronted is, and the levels of freedom it gives you, and the interaction between it and you, and the quality of it's reaction to you. On an abstract level, such things could be compared - not only between SF and SBP, but very different types of sims, too.
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Nevertheless, certai9n aspects of general quality can be compared between these two sims - or Falcon4 and SHIII. These are items that do not rely on the simulated ocntent, but "surrounding" factors like ergonomy of interfaces,handloing issues, attention to specific details that cost or add immersion, and so on. Seen that way, SBP and SF can be compared indeed. but the quality gap regharding "simulation" and "AI" is so huge in this comparsion that including a detailed comparison proved to be pointless.
I again ask you all to wait with my crucification until you have read the review that maybe already today will be out. You all are free to see it different than me, and still: there are some people as well who see it much like me. I gave my reasons for what I liked and what not. but you will need to read them first.
"Simulation" versus "game" is not problematic as long as one sees it not as different entitities but as the two opposing poles at the two ends of a specturm. You can move the general sliders more to the one or more to the other side. SBP is a training tool for the military - however , most public customers will use it like any game they use, and it serves that role quite well - despite the sim-heavy element. To say SBP cannot be used as a game, is nonsense. I just does not put much effort on the usual surropunding package features of games, but whether you use it as a game or a seriour trainer, depends on your approach to it. The degrees of freedom to vary this approach, differs with the various games/sims.
Its like with FS: you can tune its options so easy that it is almost a pure, simplistic action flyer. You can tune it up, replace the cockpits and FM, and approach it with charts and maps, and you can copy procedures and behavior from reality - then you are in a whole different league. But never will an action shooter offer you similiar degrees of freedom in how to appraoch it and how to take the game.
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Yes, I think SBP is the superior tank simulator. No - I do not make a big issue of it in the review.
And third, I am getting a bit tired of endlessly needing to defend myself over a review that so far nobody knows in details. Therefore, this thread gets locked until the review has been released. It's a bit ironic that I announced that review coming and that it disagrees with wide opinion in order to prepare people for it and avoid right that what I seem to have caused now. Obviously the wrong decision by me. Next time I let it fall down from heaven and onto people's head like a steel hammer.
This thread gets unlocked again once the review is out.
