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Old 11-16-08, 06:37 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by breadcatcher101
With respect to all, I as a law-abiding citizen want to have any type of firearm I desire. The real topic of all this talk is freedom of choice--or lack of it. When you get into an area where the goverment chooses for you than you have in effect lost that freedom.

It seems here that most of you support firearm ownership but some of you want exceptions as to what type should be allowed. This IMO is a critical error. Back when the Bill of Rights was adopted the smooth-bore musket was the weapon of it's time. There was never a restriction that allowed only some to have bows and arrows instead.
I understand your position and respect that. However, for an example lets use an AR-15. One with a 30 round magazine. the 5.56 or .223 is not a great round when hunting deer. Terrible for bird and laughable against bear. So hunting is not it's calling in life.

The 5.56 or .223 is pretty good against human targets. Low recoil lets you put multiple rounds on target accurately enough in quick time. It penetrates body armor very well.

The problem is. I have encountered quite a few citizens armed with these military style weapons. None of which were the law abidding types. Hard to sit at the movies with one strapped on your back. It's not a good choice for home protection unless you live by yourself.

I'm all for concealed carry. I firmly believe that a lot of street crime would go down. But you cannot carry an "assault" rifle concealed.

Thanks for allowing me to share.
If you use good hunting ammo the .223 is a great round for small deer and varmints (depredation of coyotes, and deer weighing in the under 100 lb. range).

But even then, over 100 meters the .223 is NOT a good anti-personnel round. Under 100 meters with USGI ammo the modern .223 military bullet is designed to fragment o a soft target or penetrate light body armor.

Beyond 100 meter the.223 doesn't fragment and just makes small pencil holes, there have been many accounts of repeatedly engaging an armed individual with repeated hits but no apparrent reaction until several minutes later after the firefight has ended.

Even then, you have to consider that most non-law-abiding perps who use firearms do so with handguns and at close range. For most of them they're only practice enough to be accurate enough to hit you with a "spray and pray" method of fire.
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