[CaptainHaplo]

OK - now we see some of the problems - on BOTH the wasteful consumption for the mere sake of it - which I agree with folks like Skybird should not continue - as well as the sheer stupidity of some of the "green" things we are supposed to do.

So how should we solve our energy needs while conserving the health of the earth? *Note I said conserve- because I am a conservative!!!!!