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Originally Posted by Christopher Snow
Israel is a country which is founded, very much, on the premise that there IS a God (that God of the Old Testament).
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Ahem, not exactly true. A religious Israel would only be legal to be founded after the Messiah comes along and the temple is rebuild.
Herzl was a nationalist who believed in racial theory, securing the jewish race a place alongside the germanic race. Ben Gurion held similar beliefs.
Many other founding fathers were socialist or even communist.
The whole "state of god" idea is something the Israelis use since Reagan's times to fool the US religious right into supporting them
Of course many jews are religious, but the nation itself has secular roots, with marked exceptions for religion like talmud students being exempt from conscription.
Funny is that you could safely consider Israel to be the most "socialist" western nation, so it is kind of surprising that the favorite nation of the american religious right actually would be utterly despised if it were any other nation.
Israel relies on superior military might, good intelligence and conscription, not on divine intervention.
If the old testament tells you one thing, it is that even the Israelites shouldn't rely too much on divine intervention....
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