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Originally Posted by jimbuna
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Originally Posted by Task Force
The war would have been entirely diffrent if Germany and the US wouldnt have declared war on each other, Germany should have not let japan in to the Axis side of the war. So america wouldnt have declared war, then Britian would have more than likely been taken over since america wouldnt be in the war (for germany atleast) and the war might have lasted alot longer. It is a good thing that america got in the war, If germany would have won. 
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Not very much apparently 
The US would have declared war on Germany.
Roosevelt knew that a European continent ruled by Germany would eventually become a threat to the US in trade terms amongst others.
Add to that the close relationship between the US and the UK both in historical and in inhabitants terms.....I honestly don't think Roosevelt had much choice.
Could you imagine the might of Germany should she gain control of the Royal Navy and possessions/resources of the British Empire. |
Why did some many here think Britain will fall and germany victorious if America didn't declare war on Germany?
That's highly unlikely because:
1. Germany had already given up trying to conquer England by Sea born Invasion by 1941;
2. American Arms and supplies can sustain England without American at war with Germany De Jure
3. If America concentrate her attention on Japan, New Zealand, Australia, and British India can shift their forces to the fight in Europe/North Africa where they are already heavily engaged. (Interesting fact: Aquitania, the ship that no real uboat ever put under the cross hair, was transporting Australian troops back home to face the Japanese threat.) So instead of Americans landing on Omaha, it will be the Kiwis and Ausis, while American Infantryman will be fighting in Papua New Guenia. I doubt the result will be much different.
Oh yeah, there are also about 10,000,000 Russians who really like to have a luger for a souvenior.
I am surprise that no one pick number 6. If America concentrate on Japan First, and ended war in the Pacific, said, a year earlier (August 44), The global situation will be vastly different today:
1. American troops would be in all of Korea, at least none from russia, hence a divided korean and korean war becomes unlikely,
2. American troops would be in Manchuria, Taiwan, maybe coastal China, making a Communist victory in the Chinese civil war less likely. (Manchuria later become a strong base for the communist during the civil war)
3. American troops and fleet in Japan, Korea, Manchuria will be facing the Russians, who will be suspicious of American motive. Stalin, being the paranoid SOB he is, will probably move troops to the east just in case America has a different agenda (Stalin were known for his own double-crossing skills)
4. By August, 44, Victory fever in Berlin should have subsided by now. Cooler heads, like Runstadt, Rommel, could have prevail.
So, at this point, an american peace plan - that restore prewar borders, Demilitarized Germany, require the change of Government in Germany, military tribunals (everything on the Atlantic Charter agreed to before dec, 1941) - with the inplicit threat of war against any side (A threat Stalin can't ignore with American troop staring down at Siberia) who refused to accept it, will be quite persuasive.
Some will say the Nazi's will still fight to the bitter end, that's what people said about japan as well..., And look what happen in Germany also, the Ruhr pocket surrender with 300,000 troops, and the Flensburg government under Doenitz didn't put up much a fight either.