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Originally Posted by WEBSTER
well i'll respond this way,
how many parts, components, and things have you burned up, burned out, or had fail in your overclocking endevors that gained you the knowledge you have now to say you know how to safely overclock things today? :hmm:
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Absolutely none. The only hardware failures Ive had in the last 8 years have been from 2 PSU's (if you dont count broken keyboard/mice). One of which was only a week or so ago. I am using an HDD in this current rig that I bought several years ago (4+) and is still in perfect working order and I use it as a back-up operating system drive with windows XP on it. My other older systems have been sold on to people looking for a cheap computer or given away in parts. I have had zero complaints or problems with them.
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Originally Posted by WEBSTER
can you say it is something an unskilled novice should attempt? :hmm:
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Everyone is unskilled at some point, but learning from experts in the field who have done that sort of thing already is the safest way to learn what
not to do. Also asking advice about what your intending to do is another great way to ensure that your doing something in the correct manner. Thats why I advised him to read up first in the site I mentioned. Its a forum where people discuss all manners of electronics and the overclocking of them.
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Originally Posted by WEBSTER
are you aware two identical pieces of hardware can have very different limits it can handle and the results you get from them? (in other words it is impossable to know the limit)
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Yes, its one of the first things you learn when Oc'ing "no two computers are alike" but only to a certain degree is this applicable. For instance buying two indentical CPU's can result in a variation between them on what settings they are stable on. One may heat up more than the other, one may attain a higher performance than the other. But they will share similar features and settings that can be used as a comparison to improve both the systems. And you can know some aspects of the limits due to what tools your going to use or parts you have. For example if I were to use liquid nitrogen I could easily attain an overclock way beyond anything normal users would get to as temperature would not be a factor. But using standard air cooling I know that at around 55 degrees celcius is the limit you should stop and back down your settings as problems will arise beyond that point.
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Originally Posted by WEBSTER
and lastly, dont assume that we dont know anything about overclocking just because we give very valid warnings about what can happen when you overclock.
while i dont overclock myself i take great joy in watching my friends set off smoke detectors and spend insane amounts of time and money doing it. :rotfl: more than one could have bought a car with that $
i always tell them if they like seeing things smoke so much its cheaper to buy fireworks instead.
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Those kinds of overclockers are simply there to try for glory. The more sensible crowd do it to improve a systems overall performance for day to day usage. As such they have setups that could and do run 24/7 without issues of any kind. I applaud people making sure someone doesnt do something stupid by giving sound advice.
However I do also feel its necessary to point out where people are mistaken on a subject when I have first hand knowledge of the matter. As I said a lot of the objections and horror stories are from those who are using sub standard or outdated tech with no knowledge of how to proceed properly. Modern system are designed to be overclocked to some extent. Some parts are solely designed to appeal to the overclockers.
Its not such a horror strewn path as some would beleive, honestly.
*EDIT/SIDE NOTE* The 4 year old rig is the one in the living room that is used as a Home Theatre PC. Its small and quiet and does everything I need it to so no need to replace it just yet.