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Old 10-15-08, 09:49 PM   #51
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Religion. Let's leave it to that.
While I have fantastic friends who are religious and acknowledge that religion is a perfectly good tool for dealing with stressors, grief, etc... I also acknowledge that it is just as good a weapon when it comes to driving human beings to terrorism, war and genocide. Jesus Camp is a terrifying view of how organized religion can, quite litterally, destroy little childrens' worldviews. The damage done by the camp members and parents will be very hard for the kids to overcome.

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Your religion by the way leads to greater violence - wars.
'Atheist' is an incredibly wide collective term for people who lack a religion, much like 'skeptic' is a collective term for people who disbelieve in homeopathy, Bigfoot, aliens, ghosts, etc. It's ludicrous to try to lump all atheists together as atheism isn't an organized religion more than skepticism is. An organized religion has tenets, leaders, etc. Sure, atheists can be united like any other group, but atheism in itself isn't a religion more than baldness is a hair colour.

I also love people who try to pull political and scientific views they don't like down to the level of religion. I hate to disappoint you, but environmentalism, "land grab" (whatever that is - I assume you mean socialism) and the Theory of Evolution... are not religions unless you redefine the word.

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Atheists usually degrade into religions of self satisfaction.
I assume you don't want to be loved by God, then, or enter Heaven?

Oh, and stow the "atheists usually" drivel. Your bigotry against atheists is quite clear. You may as well say that Afro-Americans this, or that left-handed people that. It'd be about as strongly generalizing, and make as little sense.

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A much more dangerous religion than any in the world.

I'll take Christianity any day! Much much safer.

WW2. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini all atheists...
Skeptics are even worse. Mao, the Red Khmer, the British empire, the Conquistadors. Neither of them believed in dragons and elves.

I'll take superstition any day. Much safer!

(Just in case you didn't get my point - it's not enough to say that x possessed trait y, which I dislike, hence trait y was what made him do what he did. You have to give actual evidence that it was their alleged lack of an an organized religion that caused the atrocities they commited. So far, everyone challenged to present such evidence has failed utterly).

The Inquisition, the massacre of the Aztecs, the brutality of the British empire, World War II... all caused by white people. Hence, white people are the most dangerous in the world and should be kept out of government, the boy scouts, schools, etc.
Same ****ing logic.

Or... oh! How about this? The Holocaust was carried out by Germans, hence, we should, for the sake of our nation's morals, disallow Germans and their descendants from holding public office or joining the boy scouts. The moment we allow Germany into our schools, the nation will go down the drain!

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Man, even the Atheist Discovery channel mentioned this!
There's an Atheist Discovery Channel? Is it related to the Hindu Sesame Street on FOX or the Buddhist Weather Report on CNN? Or do you mean 'secular', which is another broad term which means 'not concerning itself with religion' and applies to everything that doesn't put a religious sticker on it, from Kmart to the Astros to Nokia to Where's Wally?

PS: On the OP, Christians, too, have done horrific things in India. Look up 'Christian terrorism' on the Wiki and you'll be taken to more info.
Yawn.

An opinion piece. How about throwing some fact next time?

-S
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