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Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
No, not mad. The first time I heard of Ayers was just last week. I'm just one of millions.
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I first heard about Ayers' connections to Obama (and they really are the most tenuous links) over a year ago, and filed them away as nothing to be concerned about.
I am surprised that an American citizen hasn't heard of this by now. Why do you believe that the Rev Wright story has been "brushed under the carpet"? It was one of the defining moments of Obama's campaign. |
Yes, it has been brushed under the carpet. Defining? How? Here is a guy who sits for 20 years in front of Rev Wright but knows nothing of his sermons. Stop sniffing glue. Obama outright lied.
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Age, yes, people are biased because of McCains age. They have him as dead, cancer riddled or has alzheimers. It is a form of racism just as color, association or lineage has been a form of racism for years.
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You do not understand what the word racism means.
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You see it as black and white only.
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I never said McCain does not have skeletons. However, we are seeing more skeletons with Obama. His skeletons are more concerning to me than McCains.
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You've mentioned three of Obama's, I've mentioned four of McCains, and that was without pausing to think heavily.
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No need, if this was really an issue for McCain, it would have been looked at much deeper long ago. For 26 years, McCains record is not that bad.
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I'm going to repost my question from earlier in the thread.
Still, the question that logically follows from all of this is - has Ayers' thinking seriously affected the political beliefs of Barack Obama? The answer I can see is that if we are talking about the work of the Woods Fund, possibly. Poverty relief forms a plank in Obama's policy statements. If we are talking about the Weathermen, and the actions of the 1970's, then they have not. Obama has specifically rejected this idea, as have people like Michael Kinsley, certainly no friend of Ayers.
Do you believe that through their limited interactions, Ayers has instructed Obama in the methods that he himself has rejected?
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Answer: Birds of a feather flock together. Do you think Rev Wright had not influence on Obama either? The man officiated his wedding. Take the blinders off.
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The plan under TARP might be illegal ...So, is McCain really on the wrong track here?
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He is, if he is proposing a plan that is illegal under the last plan he signed off on, and pats himself on the back for doing so.
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Obama has been silent about the housing problem, period.
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 Really? Half of the debates have been dominated by the financial crisis, which in turn has been kicked off by the subprime mess.
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Half of his debate was not providing how he plans on correcting the problem. The conversation we were conducting concerned taking care of the housing crisis which is just one part of the whole crisis. Again, I have not heard anything from Obama other than rhetoric. There is more to the crisis other than the subprime mess. The subprime mess spurned the crisis, surely. Once started, other issues introduced themselves. Really, Tchocky, what has Obama said about the immediate correction of foreclosing homes? I have heard McCains possible plan. Obama? Oh, yes, another speech fear mongering another 4 years of Bush.
Personally Tchocky, I think both candidates will have one crappy time getting this corrected. Neither will come out smelling like roses. Personally, I do not know why any one of them wants the job. In my heart of hears I think Obama is very determined and bright. However, I have to look at experience also. Each has their own reasons for candidate selection.