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Originally Posted by Skybird
I cover Sailor Steve's six.
The claim that "no religion" equals "no principles" is hilarious. As one very strong example, I refer people to studying Confuzianism. It's social order strongly depends on principles and morals, but a religion it is certainly not.
Other examples come to mind, too.
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Agreed. It also depends on how you define religion. If religion is defined with the established god based religions, I strongly disagree. Religion is an ideology, just like communism, capitalism, social darwinism and humanism are ideologies you either believe in or not.
I consider myself an enlightend humanist. I do not believe in god, but in the good in ppl. I have very strong believes in morale and social behaviour. I do consider old fashioned religion dangrous. Not because of the values behind it, I respect these and share most of them, but because religion tends to make ppl blind and switch of their brains, just as any ideology does that is embraced too tightly. Ideologies are a safe heaven for those that do not want to be burdened with the contradicting realities of life, but prefer some clear guidelines how to act in the world.
That said, I yet have to find a christian who lives to the principles of Jesus Christ. Unluckily most folks I met and talked about it follow the rather hateful old testament. Eye for an eye and all this nonsense that causes most of the worlds evil.