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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
I believe Joseph Joubert was right: "The purpose of argument or debate should be progress, not victory." Neither side here seems to be interested in getting at the truth, only in proving that the other guy is wrong.
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Best thing that I have read all week here. 
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"In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)
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