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Sailor Steve · 08-18-08, 03:07 PM

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Boy, I really pulled the pin on that one!

@ Subman1: It's not the insults that bother me, it's where they come from. Of course there is argument, and people disagree, and then usually work something out. The Constitution didn't get written by people calling each other names. They did do that, and worse, but they finally realized that something somewhere had to give. So the compromised. From Sean Hannity to Al Franken, I'm tired of people who "know" they're right, and "know" that their way is the only way, and if anyone disagrees then that person is not listening to logic and reason. Except where I can show actual facts in detail I don't "know" I'm right, and neither do you. It's all opinion, even when you're certain you've seen what works. There's actually a big difference between "I think they're idiots" and "They're idiots", because we may think they're idiots for disagreeing with us, but we don't know it.

@ Frame57: Same thing. Your opinion on what former military say and do is just your opinion. There are a lot of former military around here, and in a lot of other forums I've been to, and some of them like to pop off, and some of them are respectful of others. There's nothing manly about calling people names and 'salvaging their manhood', and asking for a real debate or expression of opinion rather than just slamming someone you think is wrong is not PC in the least. Bragging about your service and calling anyone who disagrees with you a "wannabe" does no one any good; least of all you. And you're not proving your manhood by saying things like this, no matter how strongly you believe them. Little kids in schoolyards call each other names and demean each other's - or their dad's - manhood. It has nothing to do with being a man, or with being a veteran.

My disagreement with Subman1 on this goes back a little further than just this thread, and has nothing to do with "panty whining." As I said to him, I don't fault his opinions on this or any other subject, I just see nothing to be gained from using name-calling as a debating tactic.

Sorry to have derailed this so badly. Now back to...what was the subject again?

08-18-08, 03:07 PM	#24
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	:rotfl: Boy, I really pulled the pin on that one! @ Subman1: It's not the insults that bother me, it's where they come from. Of course there is argument, and people disagree, and then usually work something out. The Constitution didn't get written by people calling each other names. They did do that, and worse, but they finally realized that something somewhere had to give. So the compromised. From Sean Hannity to Al Franken, I'm tired of people who "know" they're right, and "know" that their way is the only way, and if anyone disagrees then that person is not listening to logic and reason. Except where I can show actual facts in detail I don't "know" I'm right, and neither do you. It's all opinion, even when you're certain you've seen what works. There's actually a big difference between "I think they're idiots" and "They're idiots", because we may think they're idiots for disagreeing with us, but we don't know it. @ Frame57: Same thing. Your opinion on what former military say and do is just your opinion. There are a lot of former military around here, and in a lot of other forums I've been to, and some of them like to pop off, and some of them are respectful of others. There's nothing manly about calling people names and 'salvaging their manhood', and asking for a real debate or expression of opinion rather than just slamming someone you think is wrong is not PC in the least. Bragging about your service and calling anyone who disagrees with you a "wannabe" does no one any good; least of all you. And you're not proving your manhood by saying things like this, no matter how strongly you believe them. Little kids in schoolyards call each other names and demean each other's - or their dad's - manhood. It has nothing to do with being a man, or with being a veteran. My disagreement with Subman1 on this goes back a little further than just this thread, and has nothing to do with "panty whining." As I said to him, I don't fault his opinions on this or any other subject, I just see nothing to be gained from using name-calling as a debating tactic. Sorry to have derailed this so badly. Now back to...what was the subject again? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo