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Skybird · 08-17-08, 05:10 AM

(German)

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572526,00.html

This is telltaling on the confused and seriously distorted state of mind of Saakashvili. It sounds like the stupid babbling of a 5-year old being offered the choice between several things and no not knowing which one to pick. I always perceived him like this, so I doubt it is just an issue of lacking sleep. Trottel.

Meanwhile, the leader of the democratic opposition in Georgia - the one opposition that repeatedly got beaten up by Saakashvilli's police with iron fists and solid sticks when demonstrating against him: why is nobody complaining about that, for a change? - commented on the Georgian decision to go to a state of open war. German media, TV yesterday night and radio today, quoted him with calling the decison of Saakshvilli to attack the Russians a "crime against his own people" for which now the Georgian people have to bleed, and an "evidence of his intellectual incompetence".

Merkel and Medwedew parted without even shaking hands, it was said. I wouldn't shake her hand, too.

A perspective on the next conflict deriving from the Soviet legacy: Crimean peninsula.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...nt/7563623.stm

I personally think that the post-Soviet era of western dominance and Russian obedience is ending, and that we see the beginning of a new diplomatic age between Russia and the West that will be formed by a much more self-confident and stronger Russia. Something like the past 20 years, just with reversed roles, maybe. eventually it could end in a status of greater stability in the east, a stability that nevertheless is enforced and maintained with force. If so, this could eventually reshuffle the cards in Russia's losing confrontation with a.) Islam in the south, and b.) chionese pressure in the south-east. Which again means pressure imposed on both, which again indirectly could eventually effect the West's relations to them as well, may it be that both players need to reshift ressources and attention from the Western playground to the souther-russian one, or may it be demands both adress to the West to actively support them in their match against the Russians "else...".

We should be careful and hesitent to accept that demand. If somebody thinks under the impression of recent events the Russians are our greatest problem, I think he is wrong.

P.S. I think this is the politicians I mentioned above, this time in an exclusive interview with Der Spiegel. He reminds the West that Saakashvilli's rgime is a criminal regime not a bit democratic, that he supresses civil rights and that he supresses media and demonstrations with force, hindering their political activities and proclamation of their opinions in public by declaring states of emergency. He directly compares him to any authoritarian regime there is, and compares him to Putin.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572496,00.html

08-17-08, 05:10 AM	#53
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,791 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	(German) http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572526,00.html This is telltaling on the confused and seriously distorted state of mind of Saakashvili. It sounds like the stupid babbling of a 5-year old being offered the choice between several things and no not knowing which one to pick. I always perceived him like this, so I doubt it is just an issue of lacking sleep. Trottel. Meanwhile, the leader of the democratic opposition in Georgia - the one opposition that repeatedly got beaten up by Saakashvilli's police with iron fists and solid sticks when demonstrating against him: why is nobody complaining about that, for a change? - commented on the Georgian decision to go to a state of open war. German media, TV yesterday night and radio today, quoted him with calling the decison of Saakshvilli to attack the Russians a "crime against his own people" for which now the Georgian people have to bleed, and an "evidence of his intellectual incompetence". Merkel and Medwedew parted without even shaking hands, it was said. I wouldn't shake her hand, too. A perspective on the next conflict deriving from the Soviet legacy: Crimean peninsula. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...nt/7563623.stm I personally think that the post-Soviet era of western dominance and Russian obedience is ending, and that we see the beginning of a new diplomatic age between Russia and the West that will be formed by a much more self-confident and stronger Russia. Something like the past 20 years, just with reversed roles, maybe. eventually it could end in a status of greater stability in the east, a stability that nevertheless is enforced and maintained with force. If so, this could eventually reshuffle the cards in Russia's losing confrontation with a.) Islam in the south, and b.) chionese pressure in the south-east. Which again means pressure imposed on both, which again indirectly could eventually effect the West's relations to them as well, may it be that both players need to reshift ressources and attention from the Western playground to the souther-russian one, or may it be demands both adress to the West to actively support them in their match against the Russians "else...". We should be careful and hesitent to accept that demand. If somebody thinks under the impression of recent events the Russians are our greatest problem, I think he is wrong. P.S. I think this is the politicians I mentioned above, this time in an exclusive interview with Der Spiegel. He reminds the West that Saakashvilli's rgime is a criminal regime not a bit democratic, that he supresses civil rights and that he supresses media and demonstrations with force, hindering their political activities and proclamation of their opinions in public by declaring states of emergency. He directly compares him to any authoritarian regime there is, and compares him to Putin. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572496,00.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 08-17-08 at 05:29 AM.