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Originally Posted by SandyCaesar
Yeah, there's always the helo, but can't the FFG localize it on its own?
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Yeah... kinda. The DDGs with the 53C can do it a little bit better than you. In light of that, I tend to think of FFGs as helicopter carriers for the AEGIS ships. Surface ASW in general is very difficult.
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Or, same thing with an Orion. No disrespect to Molon Labe and the rest of the aerial warriors, but seriously: how the hell are you supposed to pick up a black hole in the water with DIFARs and VLADs?
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I don't really bother with them. Active and non-acoustics (MAD, radar, eyeballs) is the way to go against a quiet target. My experience is that you're more likely to actually SEE the target's sail breach the surface or the periscope than you are to detect him passively, particularly in a realistically sized area. In DW, active sonar means DICASS buoys and lots of them. In real life, you might also have the EER buoys discussed in another thread, but modeling the acoustics of them is harder than I suspect DW can manage.
Maybe someday when I make my own naval combat simulator we'll have bistatics.