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Sockeye · 07-17-08, 01:29 PM

Some good points here whether or not the movie'll be any good, but we'll just have to see. I'm on the fence, really; on one hand, I WANT to like it, and on the other, when was the last time I liked a new movie? Actually, the last new movie I liked was "The Prestige", starring Bale, so who knows. But then again, the last movie I saw in the movie theatre was "Saving Private Ryan".

There were two things major things that I didn't care for in T3, and I can basically forgive all other shortcomings. The first, I didn't care for the guy playing John Connor; he seemed too whiny, too short; in T2, we see a glimpse of Connor in the future in all his badassness, massive scar on his face as he surveys the scene of Hades below through optics; the guy in T3 looked nothing like either the kid in T2 or the future Connor. The second point, I didn't like how T3 changed the "vision" of the future that "The Terminator" offered; I personally liked that particular vision, and loved that T2 stuck to this same future. In T3, the future evolved so that it was no longer the best that the 1980s could offer, but was what a modern audience could expect, and it sucked the style out of it for me, taking me out of the mood I wanted to be in for a Terminator movie.

T3 to me seemed to be a discontinuation of the franchise. I do feel that the story needed to be told so that we could see how Connor became the resistance leader, but I didn't care for the movie.

"The Terminator" had a great atmosphere to it. That final scene where the machine has had its skin burned off, been blown up, and is crawling through the cruncher with only one arm and half a leg remaining, that scared the **** outta me. "It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead." I loved Michael Biehn in this one.

T2, of course is an action movie for mass consumption. I love it, but it's not the same type of movie that "The Terminator" was. And that's all right with me; I can watch either depending on my mood. The Director's Cut is (as usual) a better picture than the theatrical release, and the SFX guys really went the extra mile with T-1000 in the final scene.

But T4...

"The future is not set. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves."

07-17-08, 01:29 PM	#5
Sockeye Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 127 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Some good points here whether or not the movie'll be any good, but we'll just have to see. I'm on the fence, really; on one hand, I WANT to like it, and on the other, when was the last time I liked a new movie? Actually, the last new movie I liked was "The Prestige", starring Bale, so who knows. But then again, the last movie I saw in the movie theatre was "Saving Private Ryan". There were two things major things that I didn't care for in T3, and I can basically forgive all other shortcomings. The first, I didn't care for the guy playing John Connor; he seemed too whiny, too short; in T2, we see a glimpse of Connor in the future in all his badassness, massive scar on his face as he surveys the scene of Hades below through optics; the guy in T3 looked nothing like either the kid in T2 or the future Connor. The second point, I didn't like how T3 changed the "vision" of the future that "The Terminator" offered; I personally liked that particular vision, and loved that T2 stuck to this same future. In T3, the future evolved so that it was no longer the best that the 1980s could offer, but was what a modern audience could expect, and it sucked the style out of it for me, taking me out of the mood I wanted to be in for a Terminator movie. T3 to me seemed to be a discontinuation of the franchise. I do feel that the story needed to be told so that we could see how Connor became the resistance leader, but I didn't care for the movie. "The Terminator" had a great atmosphere to it. That final scene where the machine has had its skin burned off, been blown up, and is crawling through the cruncher with only one arm and half a leg remaining, that scared the **** outta me. "It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead." I loved Michael Biehn in this one. T2, of course is an action movie for mass consumption. I love it, but it's not the same type of movie that "The Terminator" was. And that's all right with me; I can watch either depending on my mood. The Director's Cut is (as usual) a better picture than the theatrical release, and the SFX guys really went the extra mile with T-1000 in the final scene. But T4... "The future is not set. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves."