[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by predavolk

"In general the submarine has much more equipment to give it stronger offensive characteristics than any submarine of comparable size in either our Navy or the British Navy."

You quote one line from a description of the sound gear and make it sound like they're talking about the whole boat. US doctrine considered active sonar to be part of the equation. Also, the only US sub of comparable size was the 'S' class. The first Gato wasn't even in service when the US report was written.

"Comparison has been made [between the batteries] with standard plate cells of British manufacture. The German cells have a capacity/weight ratio which is about 45 per cent. higher than that of the British cells, but it is estimated that the life of the cells is only 2 to 2-1/2 years."

So the batteries weigh less than the British, but fail sooner. I fail to see the point.

The British also conclude that her offensive systems are superior to any of theirs. Her torpedo control in particular, but her deck and flack guns as well.

But the question didn't involve British subs. And on the TDC, from the Americans: "but definitely inferior to our torpedo data computer"

So it looks like the right answer is: the German subs were the best built subs of the war. Pound for pound, nothing else was as generally capable, with the caveat that certain specific missions or goals might be better suited by specialized designs in other Navies.

An easy conclusion to come to when you cherry-pick the reports and only choose what you like. Let me do the same:
"The deck gun is entirely too low to be of value unless the ship is operating in exceptionally calm water and the single anti-aircraft gun does not contribute materially to the offensive qualities of the ship."
"difficulties in reloading due to crowded conditions in torpedo rooms offset some of the advantage gained by the number of torpedoes carried" (which, by the way, is far less than the newest fleet boats)
"Congested conditions as they affect the efficiency of personnel."
"Lack of automatic emergency lighting, independent of main battery."

As has been said, tactically the Type VII was a great boat for short periods of time, but it was a bad choice for any long-term operations. It was indeed the best boat for the war it fought, but would have been useless in any long-range combat.

Originally Posted by Deutschland

German subs were the best of WW2..a lot best..the Germany was more technological advanced than Alies(much more!) and they have highest
constrution quality!

Did you read the whole thread? The relative advantages of both are discussed at length, and with references. If you are going to just make a flat statement that one is best, please provide references to prove it. Your insistence doesn't mean any more than mine or anybody else's.